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posted December 16, 2007 06:12 PM
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this is what happen! I was at the track Launched her hard as hell! less than 2 inches into the race, the chain snapped. backed off the line and took her home! Now I put the new chain on, put the bike in gear and she does nothing. I can hear the bike going into gear but the bike does not move. The gear indicator also show that the bike is going into gear. I mean there is nothing. Is it possible that I could have missed the front sprocket since I tried to fish it through or what! Somebody help. My 14 is down for the count!
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duncan
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posted December 16, 2007 06:35 PM
I would definitely tear her down and have a look. I bet it's something simple. QUESTION: Does the bike" twitch" forward a little when you put her in gear? Most all will somewhat.
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posted December 16, 2007 08:22 PM
nope not at all!
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posted December 16, 2007 08:22 PM
If you missed the front sprockett, it should make some kind of noise since the sprocket would rub the chain. If it is not that, the clutch could be totally fried, but not likely since it grabbed enough to snap the chain. And last and hopefully not the case, a snapped out put shaft.
Thats my thought as of the moment
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posted December 16, 2007 08:25 PM
or maybe it sounds and says its going into gear but actually is not. What ever it is, hope its an easy fix 4 ya
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posted December 17, 2007 03:13 AM
First thing I would do is drain the oil in a clean pan and look for metal pieaces then pull the clutch out and look at the end of the shift shaft and detent on the shift drum for proper operation and or damage. After clutch removal and inspection jack the rear wheel off the ground put it in first gear and hold the clutch tranny shaft while rotating the rear wheel. If you have a friend around that can shift for you while you are on the clutch side have them shift through all gears while you hold the shaft and spin the rear wheel.. You will be able to see the shifting action as well as feel for internal damage while doing this. If you find metal pieces in the oil motor tear down is mandantory. If the clutch is toast both metal & fiber you really need to pull the oil pan and clean it out thoroughly while looking for metal. Good luck and keep us posted on the outcome.
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posted December 17, 2007 07:01 AM
Thank ya'll! Is it even possible to miss the front sprocket?
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posted December 17, 2007 02:16 PM
only if the guy threading it loves his 'Busa. 
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posted December 17, 2007 04:18 PM
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Thank ya'll! Is it even possible to miss the front sprocket?
Nightmare, I had a silly question. Do you have any type of warranty on the bike? I've seen your latest pics on it and it looked sweet. I have a blue 06 also....other than this set-back, have you experienced any other issues with the bike? Good luck and please post the findings for knowledge.
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posted December 17, 2007 04:25 PM
You hook the old chain onto the new chain and thread the chain through. Very simple. There's no way to mis-thread the chain since the old chain is already on the front sprocket. Pull the chain around and bingo, the new chain is on. Now just fasten the chain, depending on what kind of master link/connector you use.
As far as what happened to you, that sounds strange. Sounds like something internal, unfortunately but hell you getting ready to go into it anyway. Now you may really have a reason to do so.
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posted December 17, 2007 07:27 PM
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Thank ya'll! Is it even possible to miss the front sprocket?
Nightmare, I had a silly question. Do you have any type of warranty on the bike? I've seen your latest pics on it and it looked sweet. I have a blue 06 also....other than this set-back, have you experienced any other issues with the bike? Good luck and please post the findings for knowledge.
No I have had no other problems with the bike!
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nightmare
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posted December 17, 2007 07:29 PM
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You hook the old chain onto the new chain and thread the chain through. Very simple. There's no way to mis-thread the chain since the old chain is already on the front sprocket. Pull the chain around and bingo, the new chain is on. Now just fasten the chain, depending on what kind of master link/connector you use.
As far as what happened to you, that sounds strange. Sounds like something internal, unfortunately but hell you getting ready to go into it anyway. Now you may really have a reason to do so.
Come on now dawg! Give me more credit than that. See when I was at the track, I launched, the chain snapped and flew backwards So I had to thread it from scratch!
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entropy
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posted December 18, 2007 06:47 AM
nightmare,
the chain actually snapped, not just a masterlink coming apart??
Wow, i have not heard of that happening.
1st thing i'd do is pull the cover off the countershaft spocket, take a peek
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posted December 18, 2007 07:40 AM
damn nightmare sorry to hear that your 14 is down. Well good luck with getting it fixed
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posted December 18, 2007 08:13 AM
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nightmare,
the chain actually snapped, not just a masterlink coming apart??
Wow, i have not heard of that happening.
1st thing i'd do is pull the cover off the countershaft spocket, take a peek
Great minds think alike.
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posted December 19, 2007 05:44 AM
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nightmare,
the chain actually snapped, not just a masterlink coming apart??
Wow, i have not heard of that happening.
1st thing i'd do is pull the cover off the countershaft spocket, take a peek
Great minds think alike.
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posted December 19, 2007 09:56 AM
Man thank God Ya'll were here! Here is what I came up with! Pulled the cover off and sure enough, The sprocket was missed! That was a big sigh of relief. Pulled the clutch cover off and drained the oil as well! No metal no where but on the inner and outer basket, there are grooves from wear and tear. You have to be careful of this because that is what causes them to explode! Now I will be checking the basket after about 50 passes or so!
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nightmare
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posted December 19, 2007 10:00 AM
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nightmare,
the chain actually snapped, not just a masterlink coming apart??
Wow, i have not heard of that happening.
1st thing i'd do is pull the cover off the countershaft spocket, take a peek
Yes dawg! it actually snapped and twisted. This is the second time this has happened and both were on non O ring chains. Not going to run these again!
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posted December 19, 2007 10:03 AM
Did you do a 520 conversion? I would assume a 530 chain would be hard pressed to snap without a giantic amount of traction/power or excessive mileage. A 520 chain could, though.
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entropy
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posted December 19, 2007 10:39 PM
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nightmare,
the chain actually snapped, not just a masterlink coming apart??
Wow, i have not heard of that happening.
1st thing i'd do is pull the cover off the countershaft spocket, take a peek
Yes dawg! it actually snapped and twisted. This is the second time this has happened and both were on non O ring chains. Not going to run these again!
nightmare,
i seeeeeriously think you have other issues somewhere....
If you are running a 530 properly set up, it should not ,and will not, snap.
chain way too loose?
WAY out of alignment?
lube issues, running it dry?
excess sprocket wear?
something is definitely amiss, DEFINITELY.
(gerard, are we together on this? )
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posted December 20, 2007 05:17 AM
Nightmare,
The last pic I saw of you at the track, I actually asked a question about your chain. It looked really loose compared to the way I run mine. For some reason, that post I made got deleted the next day. I guess someone thought I was talking garbage. Anyway, I was curious as to why you had your chain set up with all the slack in it. I know roadracers that prefer having the extra slack, but I don't know enough about dragracing to give an educated guess as to what the benifit would be in a drag setup.
Does your front sprocket have the metal 'guard' around it? Or have you removed it?
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lietoome
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posted December 20, 2007 05:22 AM
I wont be able to find the pic because the army has them blocked over here...
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posted December 20, 2007 08:46 AM
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nightmare,
the chain actually snapped, not just a masterlink coming apart??
Wow, i have not heard of that happening.
1st thing i'd do is pull the cover off the countershaft spocket, take a peek
Yes dawg! it actually snapped and twisted. This is the second time this has happened and both were on non O ring chains. Not going to run these again!
nightmare,
i seeeeeriously think you have other issues somewhere....
If you are running a 530 properly set up, it should not ,and will not, snap.
chain way too loose?
WAY out of alignment?
lube issues, running it dry?
excess sprocket wear?
something is definitely amiss, DEFINITELY.
(gerard, are we together on this? )
Yeap! Exactly right.
Unless you are using a cheap chain made for industial use not high hp motorcycles.
That's not the case is it?
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posted December 21, 2007 02:27 PM
nightmare,
no comments????
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posted December 21, 2007 03:16 PM
If you haven't been, start running the DR2 chain.
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