Blaze
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posted December 04, 2007 05:30 AM
Update from Brock?
Has anyone heard any new information (Dyno results, etc.) on the 08 ZX 14 from Brock other than his first report at Dragbike?
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Silver08
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posted December 04, 2007 09:31 AM
nope, still waiting.
there is a rumor that someone important in Rockingham said the 08 14 makes 3 more hp than the busas and more torque, though i dont know in what state of mod or tune. being it runs so rich up top stock, i would think modded.
stock for stock the busa makes more power
i will wait for Brock to speak up
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Silver08
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posted December 04, 2007 09:33 AM
Brock, the alienhead works great on the 08 by the way!!!!!
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bigdtd

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posted December 04, 2007 11:33 AM
he is probably waiting for the new power commander to be released to the general public, so the results are commercial off the shelf results
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b03818

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posted December 04, 2007 05:42 PM
Uh Huh
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NinjaNick

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posted December 04, 2007 06:10 PM
quote: he is probably waiting for the new power commander to be released to the general public, so the results are commercial off the shelf results
Click the "performance" tab on this webpage: http://www.buykawasaki.com/DefaultFrame.aspx?strContentURL=/Site/PCProductCatalog/PCCatalogTypes.asp?intCatalogId=1
5th one down is the PC
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b03818

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posted December 04, 2007 08:02 PM
Says the 08' PC is the same as 06' and 07' models. Sooooo what's the hold up?
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Brock

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posted December 04, 2007 08:12 PM
Everyone here is correct....still waiting for XXXXX????.
But we promise to give results as soon as possible.
AND they will be the most comprehensive/fair/thorough results EVER.
You have my word.
Brock
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bigdtd

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posted December 04, 2007 09:02 PM
Edited By: bigdtd on 4 Dec 2007 21:07
thanks brock, keep up the good work
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Blaze
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posted December 05, 2007 05:22 PM
Thanks Brock!!!
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Blaze
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posted December 13, 2007 04:39 PM
2 more weeks and no more information from Brock. Has anyone heard anything?
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zx14kawboi
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posted December 13, 2007 06:27 PM
Edited By: zx14kawboi on 13 Dec 2007 18:30
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lucky14

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posted December 13, 2007 07:39 PM
quote: 2 more weeks and no more information from Brock. Has anyone heard anything?
I called on Monday.
I was told that a 14 had been located.
All they need is for the PC to be released.
As someone posted earlier, the exhaust will not change for the 08.
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NinjaNick

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posted December 13, 2007 07:44 PM
Edited By: NinjaNick on 13 Dec 2007 19:53
Unless Kawasaki fucked up their website, as I posted earlier, on DECEMBER 4th,looks like they have an '08 PC! Correct me if I'm wrong and also tell me why too.
Check it out! Click the "performance parts", then the "NINJA ZX14" link, and then 2008 ZX14, and then the "performance" link.
http://www.buykawasaki.com/DefaultFrame.aspx?strContentURL=/Site/PCProductCatalog/PCCatalogTypes.asp?intCatalogId=1
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NinjaNick

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posted December 13, 2007 07:52 PM
Here's a PASTE of it!
Part # K11001-180
Power Commander PCIII USB
This item fits the following models:
2008 Ninja® ZX-14
2007 Ninja® ZX-14
2006 Ninja® ZX-14
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Sticks_n_Stones

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posted December 14, 2007 09:36 AM
Cool info guys, nice digging. I bet those PCIII's are backwards compatible, but the older ones arent necessarily FORWARDS compatible. Could be as simple as a different plug... or completely different algorythms.
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zx14kawboi
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posted December 14, 2007 02:44 PM
the busa sure didnt have to wait and it was all new
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zx14kawboi
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posted December 14, 2007 02:45 PM
I DONT KNOW WHY YOUR AVATAR IS ON MY POST
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BlackMagic14

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posted December 14, 2007 03:44 PM
Well guys I have some new info not sure if this is 100 percent correct but have heard from a pretty reliable source that the running rich problem that kawis have is a break in thing that the ECU automatically corrects at 700 miles dont know if this true I havnt tested it but heard from someone I trust!
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smokinzx14

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posted December 14, 2007 04:16 PM
quote: Well guys I have some new info not sure if this is 100 percent correct but have heard from a pretty reliable source that the running rich problem that kawis have is a break in thing that the ECU automatically corrects at 700 miles dont know if this true I havnt tested it but heard from someone I trust!
Damn it !!! i was right ....there is a little Jap guy hidding in the ECU and a at a pre set mile he flips the switch .... !!!!!!! You may think that was a joke But i'm not kidding , at 1000 miles on my 06 zx14 it started making sick sick power ...Just like someone flipped a switch and said go have some fun ...
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reward69

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posted December 14, 2007 06:59 PM
I wouldnt doubt that this is the case, at least its possible. They've been doing this for a few years on outboards. My last mercury had to get like 20 hrs on it before the ECU would let it rev over 5K. It redlined at 7800, and was a real dog until the breakin was over. I havent heard of this on a bike, but it makes sense.....
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Blaze
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posted December 14, 2007 07:27 PM
quote: Well guys I have some new info not sure if this is 100 percent correct but have heard from a pretty reliable source that the running rich problem that kawis have is a break in thing that the ECU automatically corrects at 700 miles dont know if this true I havnt tested it but heard from someone I trust!
What is the mechanical advantage of running rich on top until the "break in" or "700 miles" is complete?
What happens to the ECU at 700 miles if a pipe and tune was done at 500 miles? Does the ECU still change the settings automatically at 700 miles?
Why wouldn't Kawasaki let consumers know about this if it is true?
This whole thing has me confused. It might be because I am a "want-to-be" newbie to the ZX-14 and a current Busa owner Ha Ha!!!
Thanks for your input guys.
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1badzx12r
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posted December 14, 2007 07:49 PM
wait till ya hit 30k miles and the ecu really lets loose the powwa... rookies
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bigdtd

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posted December 15, 2007 06:43 PM
it makes sure you can ride da thing, doh!
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bigdtd

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posted December 16, 2007 10:28 AM
i saw a 2008 zx-14 power commander on ebay, we must be getting close
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