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posted October 19, 2007 07:08 AM
Brock vs. Rickey???
No, not really, but finally some good info on both the 08 Busa and the 08 ZX-14.
Brock's Hayabusa Chronicles: http://www.dragbike.com/dbnews/anmviewer.asp?a=3489&z=2
Rickey's comparison of 07 and 08 ZX-14: http://psychobike.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?s=3fea1c1d236b2c5654374e0cdf48adb0;act=ST;f=1;t=49670
Lots of "facts" there, but I'll bet the Kaw guys and Zuk guys will each see what they want to see. 
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posted October 19, 2007 08:15 AM
Compared with absolutely NO modifications
'08 Busa 9.766 at 148.97 with 140lb rider Lil' Richard
'08 ZX-14 9.655 at 148.02 with over 160 lb rider Rickey
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smokinzx14
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posted October 19, 2007 08:21 AM
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Compared with absolutely NO modifications
'08 Busa 9.766 at 148.97 with 140lb rider Lil' Richard
'08 ZX-14 9.655 at 148.02 with over 160 lb rider Rickey
Burnout 08 is going to be a very good year !!!!! Smokin...
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posted October 19, 2007 09:24 AM
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Compared with absolutely NO modifications
'08 Busa 9.766 at 148.97 with 140lb rider Lil' Richard
'08 ZX-14 9.655 at 148.02 with over 160 lb rider Rickey
Actually, the Busa was modded:
Chronic arrived at Atco fitted with our ultra-mod clutch kit (to remove the back torque limiter and smooth the clutch engagement,) a front end lowering kit, and three position adjustable rear lowering links--set at stock height--with the same nearly-full tank of pump gas from Road America that we used for our dyno pulls on the previous Saturday. I was interested in seeing what the bike would do at the strip with a dead-stop friendly clutch and a strapped front end as this represents "step one set-up" to most drag race enthusiasts with a brand new ride.
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posted October 19, 2007 09:47 AM
One thing for sure you will spend more money to go fast on a Stock motored 08 busa than a stock motored 08 zx14 ....One we don't need a clutch mod on our zx14s and second we don't need a upper tree to lower the front end ... I'm sure the busa guys will say it costs them nothing because the 99 to 07 parts will fit on the 08 ....Guess what ...Our parts enterchange also .... 
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posted October 19, 2007 09:49 AM
 Edited By: brent davis on 19 Oct 2007 10:55
My dealership has two '08 ZX-14's on the floor, one dark blue and one black/red combo. Hmmmm.
BTW, was Ricky's ride absolutely stock with stock cans, cats, no strap, not lowered at alll? If not, then it is even more impressive. I'd love to see Brock and Ricky go ahead and do both bikes up with exhaust systems and all that and get it on.
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posted October 19, 2007 10:31 AM
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BTW, was Ricky's ride absolutely stock with stock cans, cats, no strap, not lowered at alll? If not, then it is even more impressive. I'd love to see Brock and Ricky go ahead and do both bikes up with exhaust systems and all that and get it on.
Rickey's quote:
"Remember the bike is just the way you buy it from the dealer.........absolutely no modifications."
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lucky14
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posted October 19, 2007 10:33 AM
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My dealership has two '08 ZX-14's on the floor, one dark blue and one black/red combo. Hmmmm.
BTW, was Ricky's ride absolutely stock with stock cans, cats, no strap, not lowered at alll? If not, then it is even more impressive. I'd love to see Brock and Ricky go ahead and do both bikes up with exhaust systems and all that and get it on.
Rickey's words: "Remember the bike is just the way you buy it from the dealer.........absolutely no modifications."
That pretty much nails it down!
Verrrrrrrry impressive!!!
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posted October 19, 2007 10:55 AM
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Rickey's words: "Remember the bike is just the way you buy it from the dealer.........absolutely no modifications."
That pretty much nails it down!
Verrrrrrrry impressive!!!
Yeah I just looked again. Man, that is a beast hugh.
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posted October 19, 2007 11:22 AM
There you go again ! I told you that you still have hope in the the 2008 zx14.
im sure they will have a proper comparison test in the near future but i would still put my money on the hayabusa, its gonna be an interesting year !
"The 2008 Busa is strongest machine in stock trim we have ever tested-period"
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posted October 19, 2007 11:30 AM
Edited By: fastestbusaaround on 19 Oct 2007 12:30
Hey Gdawg, what part of the English language can't you read...lowered Busa gets beaten by a BONE STOCK ZX14 with a 160 LB rider VS a 140 LB rider on the Busa....Duhhhhhh 
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posted October 19, 2007 11:36 AM
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Hey Gdawg, what part of the English language can't you read...lowered Busa gets beaten by a BONE STOCK ZX14 with a 160 LB rider VS a 140 LB rider on the Busa....Duhhhhhh
i suggest you read the chronicles first cause the busa went 9.32 @ 151. !! The 9.76 time was only the first run 
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smokinzx14
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posted October 19, 2007 01:56 PM
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Hey Gdawg, what part of the English language can't you read...lowered Busa gets beaten by a BONE STOCK ZX14 with a 160 LB rider VS a 140 LB rider on the Busa....Duhhhhhh
i suggest you read the chronicles first cause the busa went 9.32 @ 151. !! The 9.76 time was only the first run
You should read it again ... 9.76 was BONE stock the 9.32 was modded ...Clutch mod , 0wt oil .. strapped and lowered .. The 08 zx14 was stone stock 9.65 NO mods !!! We win ........
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posted October 19, 2007 02:19 PM
Actually, 9.76 wasn't even BONE stock. It was strapped up front and had the clutch mod.
9.32 run also included lowering of the rear end, mirrors removed and the 0 weight oil.
Brock was smart in his wording.
"The 2008 Busa is strongest machine in stock trim we have ever tested-period".
Strongest doesn't mean quickest and he has yet to test an 08 ZX-14.
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posted October 19, 2007 02:25 PM
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Actually, 9.76 wasn't even BONE stock. It was strapped up front and had the clutch mod.
9.32 run also included lowering of the rear end, mirrors removed and the 0 weight oil.
Brock was smart in his wording.
"The 2008 Busa is strongest machine in stock trim we have ever tested-period".
Strongest doesn't mean quickest and he has yet to test an 08 ZX-14.
So true ... lets see what happens when Brock get a zx14 ....Then he will say ( The 08 zx14 is strongest machine in stock trim we have ever tested-period". )
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posted October 19, 2007 03:02 PM
Brock did say he should have a 0814 when he returns from Hindle.....Life is Good.
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posted October 19, 2007 03:32 PM
you guys should all find something new to talk about.
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smokinzx14
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posted October 19, 2007 03:58 PM
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you guys should all find something new to talk about.
No Bently this is way to much fun ...lol....
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posted October 19, 2007 04:26 PM
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One thing for sure you will spend more money to go fast on a Stock motored 08 busa than a stock motored 08 zx14 ....One we don't need a clutch mod on our zx14s and second we don't need a upper tree to lower the front end ... I'm sure the busa guys will say it costs them nothing because the 99 to 07 parts will fit on the 08 ....Guess what ...Our parts enterchange also ....
if its anything like the old busa it needs the clutch mod for the street too.
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smokinzx14
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posted October 19, 2007 04:53 PM
I posted Ricky numbers on the Busa sites and it got REAL quiet over there ......lol....
I guess i'll look at getting an 08 silver zx14 and swap all my 06 go fast parts over to the 08 .. Anyone want to guess how fast it goes ??? Smokin..
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posted October 19, 2007 05:04 PM
Smokin' if you get a '08, I will too. It will have to be silver though as I do not like the blue enuff and damn sure can't handle the black/red junk.
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posted October 19, 2007 05:08 PM
Edited By: lietoome on 19 Oct 2007 18:08
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I guess i'll look at getting an 08 silver zx14 and swap all my 06 go fast parts over to the 08 ..
when you say 'go fast parts', I assume you mean the Red plastics too?
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posted October 19, 2007 05:10 PM
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Smokin' if you get a '08, I will too. It will have to be silver though as I do not like the blue enuff and damn sure can't handle the black/red junk.
The silver is off the hook !!! The blue is ok ....That red and black ???? I would rather be shot in the nuts with a BB gun.... ......
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posted October 19, 2007 05:17 PM
Also like brocks article says all of the parts arent interchangable. They could change the gearing because it different on the 08 busa. Rickey is getting the power with the flies still in. They make me want to trade in my 06. Maybe ill just get some 08 parts and swap them on my extra motor. Problem solved
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posted October 19, 2007 05:31 PM
fuk it, we can just all put a Mr. Turbo kit on our '06 bikes and be done with it. wada ya say?
At least that is what I was seriously thinking about doing anyways but if Kaw did some upgrades to the frame area, better head, injector angle, made it to where the bike doesn't have that noise on start up, then a trade-in for me would be worth it. Damn, I only owe $3500 on the bike too and it has a whopping 2300 miles on it.
Decisions, decisions.
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