ZX-XIV
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posted October 07, 2007 07:26 AM
 Edited By: ZX-XIV on 7 Oct 2007 10:51
06/07 Another Broken Frame
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ZX-XIV
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posted October 07, 2007 07:34 AM
This is the second one I know of to brwak, I was riding with the guy with second set of pics and this could have been really bad....
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kc jr 54
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posted October 07, 2007 07:36 AM
No offense but that is quite old, and was posted here as well.
Nothing came of it though from what i remember.
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bigdtd
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posted October 07, 2007 07:40 AM
go park my moped, wait you are not qualified
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kc jr 54
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posted October 07, 2007 07:42 AM
Well in his defense a second bike has appeared to have the problem now. With mine being only 40 bikes away from his (mine is older) i may old out on getting mine back together.
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hopeitsfast
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posted October 07, 2007 07:47 AM
i don't think that this one is an old one. seems like a problem to me. last 5 of this vin is 03133 if anyone cares.
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ZX-XIV
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posted October 07, 2007 09:48 AM
Edited By: ZX-XIV on 7 Oct 2007 10:49
The second bikes frame broke yesterday 10/07/07and it was right behind me when it happened... Could have been really bad but my freind managed to stay upright...
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ZX-XIV
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posted October 07, 2007 09:54 AM
Changed heading to another broken frame, and forgive me but when a safety issue comes up I feel it dose not matter how many times it's posted. It should be put in front of people until HKI does something about it...
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Bently
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posted October 07, 2007 11:06 AM
Not good at all someones going to get killed
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billeason
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posted October 07, 2007 12:08 PM
Wheres the dealers that post on here.I have set back an watched this play out because one frame pictured early this summer, an one that may have broken chances where just a fluke. I think we can all agree now this is a problem. I know there's lots of 14's out there in all different states of tune being ran/raced /wheelied an what ever,hell i own two.But to have two bikes break at the same place on frame an breaks are practicly a mirror of each other is not a fluke. Kaw knows there's a problem thats why they changed the process of how the 08 frames are made,an nobody will make me believe otherwise. I have been in this buss. for thirty years and have seen some shit fly under the radar by factory defects an not just by khi but this is going to get some one hurt or worse. Time to stand up philla's its not a brand thing no ones nocking kaw, This is an us as riders thing. Sorry for the rant but i dont want to see any headlines tom. or next week about this,we all know what the media will do for us no matter what bike it happens on.... bill at cannon cycles...
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billeason
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posted October 07, 2007 12:23 PM
Hope everyones checking there frames a little closer. It looks like we may need to!!
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lietoome
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posted October 07, 2007 12:48 PM
Edited By: lietoome on 7 Oct 2007 13:50
odd how kawasaki has changed the way they make the frames on the 2008's.....
khi says to save weight and make it stronger. I'm guessing the frames weigh damn near the same. So why stronger? Is there a possible flaw in the older frames?
The Conspiracy continues.....
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ZX-XIV
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posted October 07, 2007 12:48 PM
Edited By: ZX-XIV on 7 Oct 2007 13:48
I feel that KHI needs to pull in all 06/07 ZX14 and fix the problem before they are forced to do so. It my cost them something now but maybe alot later. We all need to stick beside each other and send letters to KHI before it turns ito a class action...
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posted October 07, 2007 02:49 PM
Edited By: smokinzx14 on 7 Oct 2007 15:58
Letter sent to KHI.... We all need to send a letter ASAP.. Also you need to send an Email to >> http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/contact.cfm ............Smokin....
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stu64
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posted October 07, 2007 03:27 PM
Now ya made me look,had the bike up on the stands for tire change and shock adjustment.
went out to the garage with a flashlight to look, besides finding some chain lube splattered there everything looks good. My serial number is 5590 or something close to that.
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zx trouble
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posted October 07, 2007 04:56 PM
i know a guy with 07 gixer1000 heard his frame broke he crashed i was told insurance co told him it was abuse i havent seen pictures yet but the doc says after therapy he should get 80 percent use of his arm back
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posted October 07, 2007 05:03 PM
my 14 lucky to be alive check your frames .scary ride will post results from kaw and ins findings later in week . only 5400 miles 7 mos off showroom floor
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KaiBosh
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posted October 07, 2007 05:10 PM
Not to downplay this, but... Before the Internet was as ubiquitous as it is now, there were random horrific failures of all types happening to bikes out there, and you would never hear about it. A handful of frame weld failures are not going to change anything for YOU. Yes, it is worthwhile to clean and very carefully inspect this area on your own bike, but even if it was going to break tomorrow you may not see anything anyway.
Shit happens, and that is all there is to it. Even with robotic modern welding facilities there are variables involved that make every single bike a little different. Add people to a production system and the differences are off the map. Welding will never be an exact process - put 200hp through the frame of 10,000 bikes and a couple of them will see something break, whether it be from fatigue due to circumstances at production, unique vibratory harmonics specific to that bike/rider/conditions, etc.
The other thing to consider is that engineering and design is never perfect - it is as good as it needs to be to make something cheap and turn a profit. Like they say about the space shuttle - 50,000 parts all made by the lowest bidder.
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kawasaki_rick
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posted October 07, 2007 05:19 PM
It wont let me go to the site.Would some1 tell me where the frames are cracking? A pic of the area 2 check would be nice also. I need 2 check mine.
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ZX-XIV
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posted October 07, 2007 05:53 PM
I agree somethings are going to break but not the backbone of the bike, Maybe there are 10,000 ZX14 out there and if there was not a problem why are they changing the frame on the 08s. No this kind of problem is wrong . oregon blue was not in anyway pushing his bike at the time it happened, as I was right i front of him on my 14. Maybe we were do 40-45 at most and hit the same pot hole and I'm not talking about a pot hole that could swallow a car. The frames on the most powerful motorcycle on earth should not fail no matter what...
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posted October 07, 2007 05:56 PM
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posted October 07, 2007 06:36 PM
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Now ya made me look,had the bike up on the stands for tire change and shock adjustment.
went out to the garage with a flashlight to look, besides finding some chain lube splattered there everything looks good. My serial number is 5590 or something close to that.
It's not the big cracks that get ya, it's the microfractures. Unlike steel, Aluminum has very little modulus elasticity, and repeated shock over its stress limit will result in failure (strain rate and endurance limit.) There might have been some weak casting in that area, voids, etc or higher stress than was anticipated on that section. It might have been better for Kawasaki to have made that section from a CNC block and had the cast section welded to it.
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stevewfl
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posted October 07, 2007 06:55 PM
they changed their weld methodology to gravity thing for '08 either way. weird they'd do that
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lietoome
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posted October 07, 2007 08:27 PM
I'd rather have a full frame, not the monacco.
I still dig my 14 though.
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posted October 07, 2007 09:05 PM
Really guys you need to shoot off and email to KHI and let them know how you feel about this ....Post the link to this site in your email ....If everyone with an 06 07 zx14 sends an email to KHI we may force a recall to update our frames to 08 frames ...Nobody has got hurt so far that we know of BUT you maybe the first one to end up in a body cast or dead ...
Two zx14s have broken frames that we know of and pictures of the damage as proof.. There are lots of zx14 owners that don't post on the web so there maybe more frames like these two ..Stand back and do nothing and KHI will do nothing ..Come one guys make some noise !!!! Smokin...
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