zx14_busakilla
Expert Class
Posts: 165
|
posted October 06, 2007 11:09 AM
ZX14 at the crank
Stop by the store last night to get some gas, one of the head salesman at our local stealaship came up to me talking about the 08 zx14. He said Kawasaki sent him a letter yesterday saying the 08 will be 203hp or 205hp at the crank. Is that some good news or what !!
  
|
brent davis
Zone Head
Posts: 504
|
posted October 06, 2007 11:35 AM
 Edited By: brent davis on 6 Oct 2007 12:35
LMFAO.
Until the bike is dynoed, smoke is still bellowing outta ppls mouths.
____________
Black '06 ZX-14
|
zx14_busakilla
Expert Class
Posts: 165
|
posted October 06, 2007 11:38 AM
That's what they sent him and he told me
|
fastestbusaaround
Needs a life
I eat Fish...
Posts: 7889
|
posted October 06, 2007 11:45 AM
The specs on the European Kawi site translated to 200.2 HP, but that's with ram air I think...
____________
FYYFF!!!
|
dbeadling
Zone Head
Posts: 699
|
posted October 06, 2007 12:21 PM
sounds like the 08 zx 1400 went the the brock school of fast ....and kicked the busa on the play ground. stock vs stock. the 08 busa and a pipe only at 193 h/p is another matter.sounds like the suzuki likes the mods better or will the 08zx 1400 be the big monkey with the go fast stuff. or will the v max drop out of the blue with 220 h/p with the knock out punch.
|
dbeadling
Zone Head
Posts: 699
|
posted October 06, 2007 12:38 PM
had a 1985 v max and when it came out it had 30 h/p over anything else and was a blast to drive.open it up in first at 40 mph and the front wheel would jump 3 feet into the sky. too bad it did not go around bends in the road. a lot of riders found that out the hard way
|
dubious
Needs a life
Needs more time to ride!
Posts: 8442
|
posted October 06, 2007 01:30 PM
Kawi had better done some good work on the head to compete in '08.
Heck, the old busa head outflowed the zx14 head.....
____________
natural selection.....
destiny will overcome intervention.
Some are not worthy of the effort.
|
Dave Bogue
Novice Class
Posts: 34
|
posted October 06, 2007 02:27 PM
quote:
Stop by the store last night to get some gas, one of the head salesman at our local stealaship came up to me talking about the 08 zx14. He said Kawasaki sent him a letter yesterday saying the 08 will be 203hp or 205hp at the crank. Is that some good news or what !!
Horsepower at the crankshaft is a meaningless measurement. It can be any number the manufacturer chooses. Why, because the number cannot be verified by the rider.
Another meaningless number is the crankshaft horsepower with ram air induction. How is that measured?
RWHP on your local dyno is a good starting point to know what kind of power a bike produces, BUT dyno runs vary from bike to bike, dyno to dyno, and depend in part on humidity and temperature. To confuse the issue, some ask about correction factors and SAE standards.
Another meaningless measurement is the manufacturers claimed dry weight. The meaning of "dry weight" is a little elusive too. With or without battery? With fork oil? No coolant?
Anyhow, I think we can agree that when a bunch of the new bikes (Busa & ZX-14) get on local dynos, we will be able to average out the RWHP figures to see how much power the bikes are producing.
Dyno figures are very interesting, but so is a bit of controlled street racing. These bikes should be very close; the rider will make the difference most of the time.
|
Hawkman
Zone Head
Posts: 747
|
posted October 06, 2007 03:36 PM
quote:
Stop by the store last night to get some gas, one of the head salesman at our local stealaship came up to me talking about the 08 zx14. He said Kawasaki sent him a letter yesterday saying the 08 will be 203hp or 205hp at the crank. Is that some good news or what !!
He was almost right. It's 203 PS at the crank with Ram Air, according to Kawi.
|
fastestbusaaround
Needs a life
I eat Fish...
Posts: 7889
|
posted October 06, 2007 06:35 PM
...which I think translates to 200.2HP. No matter; the 08 ZX14 probably still has more low end TQ than the 08 Busa, so the extra HP on top that the Busa has, shouldn't make any difference. It will all be about the rider. I think that Kawi's plan since the 06, was to beat the 99-06 Busa's, wait and see what the next model has in store, then unlock a bit more power to compete, without having to reinvent the wheel all over again. Now we know the two are equally matched; no more dominance by Suz anymore...
Don't forget, the fuel injection and exhaust ports have changed as well on the 08 14 -- and that should have some effect on overall gains.
____________
FYYFF!!!
|
Hawkman
Zone Head
Posts: 747
|
posted October 06, 2007 08:11 PM
I like this comparison. Kerry Bryant from Area P's results with just slipons. 1st Gen ZX-14 competes very favorably. 14 hits 150hp @ 7600 rpm, whereas the Busa hits it @ 8100 rpm. Torque is stronger on the 14 as well. Based on these graphs, I don't doubt this 14 would beat that Busa in the 1/4.
06 ZX-14:
08 Busa:
|
bigdtd
Needs a job
Interceptors
Posts: 4209
|
posted October 07, 2007 04:20 AM
14 no flies is a torque monster
____________
2006 Black ZX-14,6 inches over,16/42, flies out,BMC Street Filter,Brock's Street Meg,Brock's Radial Mount Strap,PClll with Race map,Dynojet LCD w/Techmount, ZX-14 fender eliminator,Pilot Power2CTs,Speedohealer,Pazzo Levers,Cox Radiator Guard, Garmin Nuvi 265WT
|
smokinzx14
Needs a life
Posts: 10197
|
posted October 07, 2007 06:49 AM
Edited By: smokinzx14 on 7 Oct 2007 07:52
Guys guys you are missing the picture here ...Brocks 177.50 Numbers are STD ... the chart above is SAE ... The real numbers are NOT going to be that far a part .....Set back Guys and lets see what the 08 zx14 brings to the table........  Look at the dyno sheet below with a yosh full system at SAE numbers ... I know it said slip on but it's Yosh full system ..
____________
Smokin Performance Cycles..
Tampa Bay , FL .. Brocks Performance Dealer ..
Gen 2 ZX14R Best ET 8.43 , Best MPH 164.95
|
Bently
Needs a life
2012 14r In Blue and no Mods!
Posts: 5428
|
posted October 07, 2007 07:04 AM
ya and Yosh is not known for making the most hp!
|
|
|
HOME
NEW TOPIC