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posted September 11, 2007 05:52 PM
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OK there were rumors of a naked bike.
This one is HALF-NAKED!!!
Who stole the other half of the fairing??? 
At least it'll be easy to attach frame sliders.
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stevewfl
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posted September 11, 2007 05:56 PM
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OK there were rumors of a naked bike.
huh? the Z1000 is the nakie bike for Kawi in tthe litre arena
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posted September 11, 2007 05:57 PM
Likes:
The blacked-out rearsets.
Dislikes:
Tail section, too high.
Nose, too low.
Upper, too angular.
Lower, too angular and not enough of it.
Muffler, bell bottoms went out a long time ago.
Front turn signals are in the worst possible place ever. Why can't they just do like Suzuki and copy Honda and put them IN the mirror. The stalks went from slim to bulky.
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posted September 11, 2007 06:01 PM
I like the green tape on the rims! I suspect the '08 CBR1000RR is goingg to slaughter this bike on the race track.
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posted September 11, 2007 06:38 PM
Hell i love the way it looks .......Looks like you can just unbolt the turn signals ...And who keeps the stock pipe anyway .....One thing for sure it looks 100% better than that 1000 honda ..I'm betting it makes more HP that the hondukey....  lol..
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posted September 11, 2007 06:39 PM
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Hell i love the way it looks .......Looks like you can just unbolt the turn signals ...And who keeps the stock pipe anyway .....One thing for sure it looks 100% better than that 1000 honda ..I'm betting it makes more HP that the hondukey.... lol..
+1 It's smokin' HOT! ...and I'm sure will be the KING of 1000cc HP.
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posted September 11, 2007 06:50 PM
What a real 10R Looks like
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posted September 11, 2007 06:54 PM
I like what I have seen so far. I think it would look awesome when it is stripped down for a track day. Oh and change the can. I like the high ass and low front styling. That is the "road racer stance".
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posted September 11, 2007 06:57 PM
 Edited By: smokinzx14 on 11 Sep 2007 19:58
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Hell i love the way it looks .......Looks like you can just unbolt the turn signals ...And who keeps the stock pipe anyway .....One thing for sure it looks 100% better than that 1000 honda ..I'm betting it makes more HP that the hondukey.... lol..
+1 It's smokin' HOT! ...and I'm sure will be the KING of 1000cc HP.
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smokinzx14
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posted September 11, 2007 06:59 PM
Edited By: smokinzx14 on 11 Sep 2007 20:14
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What a real 10R Looks like
I was unware that year came with a butt plug....Pretty cool ....
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posted September 11, 2007 07:07 PM
OK gentlemen's bets on the ZX10 vs. Honda regarding performance....
whoa wait if we're only talkin' "peak HP"....uhm nevermind I'll save that silly debate for the gixxer type crowd, but I say the Honda will be lighter/more nimble/shorter wheelbase, faster braking, more torque, and slaughter the ZX10 on these litre bike's playing field (the race track) :P
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fastestbusaaround
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posted September 11, 2007 07:19 PM
That bike is stunning! -- not the 05 Gunner...(I still have one of those till Friday, when I get my C14)....I mean the 08 10R...
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posted September 11, 2007 07:37 PM
I can't understand people complaining about the exhaust on almost any bike. The first mod most people make is the exhaust so who cares what the stocker looks like. Honda tried with the RC-51 to put a really cheap exhaust on the bike with that thought in mind. Why pay for a fancy pants Ti / carbon exhaust that you are going to bin anyways. And then everyone said cool bike but what's with the crappy pipe. You can't win.
As with most new designs, give it a month or two to get used to it. You may be surprised.
As for the mirrors, yea not the best design from either an aesthetic or aerodynamic point of view. But a screwdriver and an after-market set will right things no fuss.
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dougmeyer
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posted September 11, 2007 08:00 PM
Looks really light
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zx12adam
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posted September 11, 2007 08:11 PM
Problem with the mirrors is I don't ever change them out. Aftermarket units suck as you're staring at vibrating ebows.
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FasterThanStink
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posted September 11, 2007 08:19 PM
The don't put aftermarket mirrors on. Get a set from an older ZX-10 or whatever bike you think has good mirrors. It's not rocket science to make them fit.
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posted September 11, 2007 08:38 PM
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OK gentlemen's bets on the ZX10 vs. Honda regarding performance....
whoa wait if we're only talkin' "peak HP"....uhm nevermind I'll save that silly debate for the gixxer type crowd, but I say the Honda will be lighter/more nimble/shorter wheelbase, faster braking, more torque, and slaughter the ZX10 on these litre bike's playing field (the race track) :P
Yes, you & I already have a gentlemens bet on the Better bike. Not just peak HP(We already know Kawi has got that won lol!) But the best bike overall.
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posted September 11, 2007 09:33 PM
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Looks really light
+1. Team Green, save me a spot...
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zx12adam
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posted September 11, 2007 09:34 PM
As far as peak hp and wet weight(with full tank) we should just figure the power-to-weight ratio and call it a day.
Then overlay the power curves(from the same dyno back-to-back), bottom to mid-range torque is the street engine winner. Midrange to peak hp + over rev is the track engine winner.
As far as handling not much we can do, read all the mag/internet comparos, gather their thoughts and lap times.
Price shouldn't be much an issure if their MSRP is within $500 of each other.
Comfort is opinion based and veries from rider to rider, shouldn't be taken into consideration anyways as they are track weapons.
Reliability. If a manufacturer issues a recall on engine/tranny problems it loses everything by default. No sense in that.
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posted September 11, 2007 09:37 PM
And for fun find a ZX10 owner and a CBR owner and do a trackday together! 
I vote JenningsGP(North Florida).
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posted September 12, 2007 03:48 AM
Looks good after a couple days. Exhaust and rear plate holder have to go of course. Looks MotoGPish.
I hope Kaw answered the bell this year for world wide dominance.
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posted September 12, 2007 04:25 AM
This thing looks awesome. I personall don't care about the mirrors, signals, exhaust, or rear fender. All are items that will be discarded for racing, or easily replaced with aftermarket parts.
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GUNNER
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posted September 12, 2007 05:30 AM
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Looks really light
With ALL due respect Doug and you do get, have, and deserve a lot.. What part exactly looks light?
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posted September 12, 2007 05:38 AM
interesting...
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posted September 12, 2007 05:40 AM
Edited By: GUNNER on 12 Sep 2007 06:41
I'm betting it's NO lighter at all. About the only way to get these things much lighter is the extensive use of exotic materials EVERYWHERE Possible and I'm NOT seeing that here. YEA they could make it lighter but who would pay for it.
I would like to see a full on FRONT and REAR view.... I just pray someone close to me gets one soon my 05 is hungry.
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