freddie900
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posted August 19, 2007 01:18 PM
Can't pass/beat a zx 12!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My buddy zx 12 is suppose to be stock,but running top speed it's like he's on 14 and I'm on 12.He blew his motor last year before winter.I'm thinking he had work done like a cam,piston kit, & crank work. He knew before his motor blew I was getting a 07 zx 14.So what do you guys think & what could he possibly had done to bike.He won't tell.He likes being the underdog.
  
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ZXLNT
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posted August 19, 2007 02:35 PM
Lol probably a 1270 motor. Is your bike stock??
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freddie900
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zx 14 2007
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posted August 19, 2007 02:39 PM
Right out the box!
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tslewisz
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posted August 19, 2007 02:42 PM
 Edited By: tslewisz on 19 Aug 2007 15:43
Shit, dude, even just a piped and decently tuned 12R will romp on a stock 14. I know...happened to me!
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stevewfl
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posted August 19, 2007 02:46 PM
any anyone in the ZX12 forum, the ZX14 is slow!
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freddie900
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posted August 19, 2007 02:52 PM
I guess I top out at 185mph. He was still pulling away from me,I just could not pull him in. I can say this we left both busas way behind us. But that bike and half gap I could'nt close & at 185 the gap got a little bigger.
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tslewisz
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posted August 19, 2007 03:12 PM
Ya' know, you can fix that. 
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freddie900
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zx 14 2007
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posted August 19, 2007 03:19 PM
HOW & HOW MUCH!!!!!!!!!
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BlackMagic14
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posted August 19, 2007 03:32 PM
Get a pipe and a PCIII amd take the flies out cost you about 1300 bucks depending on which pipe you get some cheaper some more
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tslewisz
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posted August 19, 2007 03:35 PM
To fix the topend restriction, you'll need a Speedo Healer. At least I don't know of another way, save taller gearing, which probably isn't a good plan for a street bike. Anybody else?
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tslewisz
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posted August 19, 2007 03:38 PM
Oh, check out Brock's ZX-14 Diaries, all of 'em, but mostly the Maxton one, on BrockRacing.com or Dragbike.com. Good luck...lots of good advice here...you'll get that pesky 12!
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freddie900
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zx 14 2007
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posted August 19, 2007 05:20 PM
How much hp does a1270 kit suppose to put out? And what about other kits that suppose to make 12's better than a stock 14? I think Muzzy & ape has them.At 1394cc the APE kit makes your ZX12 nearly 50 cc larger than the a new factory ZX14. This kit consist of 86mm forged pistons with a cylinder block bored and re plated to fit, a 60 mm fully nitrided and race-balanced stroker crankshaft, and Carrillo rods.
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tslewisz
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posted August 19, 2007 06:07 PM
Here are some ballpark numbers from one of the best tuners in the biz.
http://www.carpenterracing.com/zx-12.htm
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bigdtd
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posted August 19, 2007 06:49 PM
freddie, obviuously the guy got his bike worked on. what are you going to do leave yours stock? get with the program 
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FearsomeK
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posted August 20, 2007 04:28 AM
What's the big issue?
A tuned piped 12 can take out a tuned and piped 14 on any given day depending on rider etc.
In the UK, the class 2 (no engine mods just pipe, pc3r etc) record is held by a 12 at 210mph followed by a few other 12s, 14s and Busas.
At the very top end, their is little between them. Drag racing is where the 14 rules.
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FearsomeK
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posted August 20, 2007 04:31 AM
quote:
How much hp does a1270 kit suppose to put out? And what about other kits that suppose to make 12's better than a stock 14? I think Muzzy & ape has them.At 1394cc the APE kit makes your ZX12 nearly 50 cc larger than the a new factory ZX14. This kit consist of 86mm forged pistons with a cylinder block bored and re plated to fit, a 60 mm fully nitrided and race-balanced stroker crankshaft, and Carrillo rods.
A1270 12R over here is by far the fastest built bike in the country running at 216mph.
They are very fast. I would think it would be blatantly obvious if it was a 1270 as it would piss all over a standard 14 by a country mile.
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riaansh
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posted August 20, 2007 10:00 AM
quote:
What's the big issue?
A tuned piped 12 can take out a tuned and piped 14 on any given day depending on rider etc.
In the UK, the class 2 (no engine mods just pipe, pc3r etc) record is held by a 12 at 210mph followed by a few other 12s, 14s and Busas.
At the very top end, their is little between them. Drag racing is where the 14 rules.
Someone is lying fearsome. You need more than 200 hp to get to that speed. Sorry but I don't believe bolt on mods can do that much difference on a 12. Those guys aren't honest about their mods.
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FearsomeK
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posted August 20, 2007 01:06 PM
Edited By: FearsomeK on 20 Aug 2007 14:07
The bike has 184rwhp. I know this as it was dynoed just before mine at a dyno day last year.
Bob C on his 14 did 205 the same day, as did another 12R. There was a strong tailwind so the speed will seem high. The same rider on the same bike did 203 last time out without much of a tailwind, as did Bob C funnily enough.
Top end, there is very little in it.
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posted August 23, 2007 04:43 PM
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