butterthegreat
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posted August 07, 2007 10:37 AM
ZX-14 Break-in Procedures.....
Alright...so I am finally getting my once and for all ZX-14 to keep forever. I have been debating what type of break-in to do. I have read extensively about a hard break-in and the same for manufacturer break-in procedures. I was afraid to do the hard break-in so I want to settle for a semi-hard break-in. I broke in my 06 ninja 250 the hard way and it's trucking along @ 6k with no problem. I broke in my 06 600rr the semi-hard way and it's @ 30k with no problems.
Now my question is how bad would it be to do it the semi hard way? How often should I change the oil? The shop I am buying the bike from is 100 miles away, so I was going to ride it home and change the oil when I got home with regular oil, and drive it around town for a few hundred more miles then change the oil again, drive a few hundred more miles, then bring it in for it's first service. Does that sound good enough?
I will then change the oil @ 1k, then @ 3k with synthetic.....any objections/suggestions? This bike will be mostly a commuter, so yeah....
  
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BlackMagic14
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posted August 07, 2007 11:03 AM
I think everyone feels differently on this subject, I think the only universal opinion (which I agree with) is just make sure to vary the RPM's as much as possible during break in, run it up high then let off then run it up high again does that make sense
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butterthegreat
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posted August 07, 2007 11:04 AM
 Edited By: butterthegreat on 7 Aug 2007 12:05
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I think everyone feels differently on this subject, I think the only universal opinion (which I agree with) is just make sure to vary the RPM's as much as possible during break in, run it up high then let off then run it up high again does that make sense
I figure the opinions would vary, but hey, such is life.
And I understand what you are saying. Basically it just makes sure the piston rings are subjected to different levels of pressure to make sure they seat well.
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LeoVinceZX14
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posted August 07, 2007 11:41 AM
Breakin...?
Butterthegreat:
I think Blackmagic is right, opinions will vary. I broke in my blue '07 what I consider "semi-hard". Varying the RPM's out the dealer door. Rode around in 2nd and 3rd gear alot in the city to vary the rev's and zinged it to 10K at 49 miles on the ODO and then 11k at about 95 miles on the ODO. At present I have 2300 miles with no problems.
Many have gone straight to the 1/4 zone with low miles, I think I read that Smokin has 500 odd passes on his bike and less than 3,000 miles and no problems. So depends on what you are comfortable with..... For the record, my bike ran noticeably better after 1st oil change (400 miles) and then again once it had about 1000 miles. Just my experience......
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Hawkman
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posted August 07, 2007 01:43 PM
Bikes that I had and broke in hard = awesome/strong bikes.
Bikes that I adhered to manufacturer's method = pussies.
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Bently
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posted August 07, 2007 01:48 PM
Sold my 14 with 5000 miles and 300 and some passes at the track never any problems and I rode the bike Home from the dealer 11 miles then to the track 15 miles and made 10 passes at the track. Guess thats the semi hard way!
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sands
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posted August 07, 2007 03:16 PM
Edited By: sands on 7 Aug 2007 16:18
There is a massive misconception as to what a "hard break in" actually is....People mistakenly think a hard break in means mindlessly screaming the engine at high rpms...Really a NO NO...What most folks don't understand is that it's NOT the high rpm that causes ring seating...It's the gas pressure that causes ring seating....High RPM is merely the result of 100% gas pressure over time...And it's the gas pressure that gets behind the ring and causes it to flare out toward the cylinder wall creating a seal yielding proper compression....You can easily apply heavy gas pressure (heavy throttle) without high rpm by doing brief full throttle blasts and just let off before the rpm's get too high...
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FasterThanStink
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posted August 07, 2007 06:26 PM
Break it in fast and it will be fast. Break it in slow and it will be slow.
Your new bike has had several trips to redline right after it was built on the assembly line dyno. You need to make sure the bike is warmed up and then give it some heavy throttle to get the gas pressure up to seat the rings and then let engine braking slow you down. Give a good blast home and then change the oil right away with regular oil. Switch to full synthetic at 1500 or so and your good to go for a long while.
Your rings will be 80% seated in the first 20 miles if you give it some hard throttle. Just be careful with a new unfamiliar bike with slippery new tires!
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bigdtd
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posted August 07, 2007 06:39 PM
leave the break in oil in for 600 miles to let it get seated, then change it and hammer it, you will notice a big diff with the new oil. the orig oil is thin to let the motor break in.
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posted August 08, 2007 06:13 PM
Ya wanna dog?? .......walk it 
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Wheelie
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posted August 08, 2007 06:24 PM
I see that rings are the only engine part that is mentioned to have a break in period. What about the valves? wee
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BIGZXDADDY
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posted August 08, 2007 06:42 PM
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I think everyone feels differently on this subject, I think the only universal opinion (which I agree with) is just make sure to vary the RPM's as much as possible during break in, run it up high then let off then run it up high again does that make sense
+1 then after 1000miles and oil change drive it like you stole it
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