mikebar4
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posted August 06, 2007 07:42 PM
good 60ft but bad e.t...
i have a 64" zx14, flies removed, brocks smeg, brocks map, lowered, strapped, stock filter, 16 front 45 rear, and airshifter... i cut a 1.48 60ft but didnt run but a 6.19 1/8 and a 9.64 1/4... i was stucked in and 100% throttle out of the gate... whats the prob?? do i have too much gear in back? should i go down to like a 42 or 43???? i figured with that 60ft, i should have went a 9.20 or 9teen at least.. im running 89 octane and a usoft with about 15 psi
  
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mikebar4
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posted August 06, 2007 07:42 PM
i also have heavy duty springs
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posted August 06, 2007 07:46 PM
I can't answer your question, but someone who can will need to know your weight
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BlackMagic14
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posted August 06, 2007 08:21 PM
TO MUCH GEAR FOR A 195 pound rider go with 16/42 maybe 43 I think I just answered this on Psychobike LOL TRUST ME 16/45 is way to much gear for a guy under 200 pounds I dont even run 16/45 and I weigh 285 Smokin can you chime in here
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posted August 06, 2007 10:33 PM
Weight can be a huge issue.
I am thinking it may be b/c of the generic map. It may not cure everything, but with a good tune and changing of the gears you might be on the right track.
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posted August 07, 2007 02:54 AM
definatley not a generic map, I ran the Brocks smeg with Brocks Track map for fleis removed and air filter removed on 87 pump gas and with a 1.45 60 ft went 9.14 and I weigh 216 unsuited. i was i tooth down in the front
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posted August 07, 2007 03:51 AM
2 much gear. 16\41 here . works great. and im 215.
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posted August 07, 2007 04:36 AM
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i have a 64" zx14, flies removed, brocks smeg, brocks map, lowered, strapped, stock filter, 16 front 45 rear, and airshifter... i cut a 1.48 60ft but didnt run but a 6.19 1/8 and a 9.64 1/4... i was stucked in and 100% throttle out of the gate... whats the prob?? do i have too much gear in back? should i go down to like a 42 or 43???? i figured with that 60ft, i should have went a 9.20 or 9teen at least.. im running 89 octane and a usoft with about 15 psi
from what I recall, That is not too much gear if you use the speedo healer. couple guys here running 8.9x with similar gearing, 10" over arms and NO dope!
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mikebar4
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posted August 07, 2007 05:08 AM
yeah im about 195 suited.... i really dont think my clutch is slipping either.
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posted August 07, 2007 06:04 AM
smokin lee should chime in here i hope.
I recall he runs 16/41 with 40hp shot, stretched and lowered for 8.7x , he weighs 140 lbs... give or take an extra feather..
he said it was spinning too much with 16/43... with a 40 hp shot.
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posted August 07, 2007 06:06 AM
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definatley not a generic map, I ran the Brocks smeg with Brocks Track map for fleis removed and air filter removed on 87 pump gas and with a 1.45 60 ft went 9.14 and I weigh 216 unsuited. i was i tooth down in the front
were you running your stock rear sprocket when you went 9.14
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posted August 07, 2007 08:41 AM
Hell it could be the air. Were not going to see really impressive #'s until the fall when we see 60 and below weather....at least where i live. Where are you shifting at?....Hell i'm lucky to run 12 psi in my tire even with a straight link. I was seeing 1.42-1.43 60's last year and running 9.20's. This year i havent seen anything better than a 1.48 but i'm running 9.30's in the heat. My bike averages 147-148 normally with 16/44 gearing. One pass i seen almost 154mph just by paying more attention to my shift points.
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posted August 07, 2007 08:41 AM
ps...take your filter out or get a BMC
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mikebar4
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posted August 07, 2007 09:36 AM
what is the best shift point for peak hp??
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BlackMagic14
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posted August 07, 2007 10:36 AM
11,200 indicated!! that is actually 10800
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posted August 07, 2007 11:08 AM
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smokin lee should chime in here i hope.
I recall he runs 16/41 with 40hp shot, stretched and lowered for 8.7x , he weighs 140 lbs... give or take an extra feather..
he said it was spinning too much with 16/43... with a 40 hp shot.
Well you are a little off  ...On motor NO spray 8.77 using a 16/41 gear and i weigh in at 150 .... On spray 8.56 and that was a 30 shot .... I did try 16 /42 gears and on the motor and all i did was wheely so i went back to 16/41 .. I sold the 42 tooth rear sprocket to Burnout and it helped with his 60 foot times and ET ...I think he weighs a tad over 200 pounds ...Smokin...
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posted August 07, 2007 06:34 PM
"should i go down to like a 42 or 43????"
go with the 42
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posted August 07, 2007 06:50 PM
Was the track NHRA, IHRA? or an outlaw track? The timing lights may not be accurate, what was the mph? Is the air shifter auto? You may be shifting early, RichCraft1 is running 16-48 he is a 180 pounder, and running some of the fastest times around. wee
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posted August 08, 2007 03:02 PM
it was not a certified track, but there has never been an issue with the times being off. i had a hole in my airline so i was footshifting. the mph wasnt given either.. im thinking of putting my stock sprocket on back and seeing what it will run..
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posted August 08, 2007 03:33 PM
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it was not a certified track, but there has never been an issue with the times being off. i had a hole in my airline so i was footshifting. the mph wasnt given either.. im thinking of putting my stock sprocket on back and seeing what it will run..
were you hitting the rev limiter in any gear? wee
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mikebar4
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posted August 08, 2007 06:14 PM
nope,, good clean shifts and i just blipped the throttle and put it in gear.....
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posted August 08, 2007 07:46 PM
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smokin lee should chime in here i hope.
I recall he runs 16/41 with 40hp shot, stretched and lowered for 8.7x , he weighs 140 lbs... give or take an extra feather..
he said it was spinning too much with 16/43... with a 40 hp shot.
Well you are a little off ...On motor NO spray 8.77 using a 16/41 gear and i weigh in at 150 .... On spray 8.56 and that was a 30 shot .... I did try 16 /42 gears and on the motor and all i did was wheely so i went back to 16/41 .. I sold the 42 tooth rear sprocket to Burnout and it helped with his 60 foot times and ET ...I think he weighs a tad over 200 pounds ...Smokin...
LMFAO 
That my man ..... is CRUISING!
wow, remind me to keep an eye out for a slightly grizzled fast guy on a red zx14!
How old are you Lee... remind us cause I'm quite impressed !
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posted August 08, 2007 07:55 PM
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smokin lee should chime in here i hope.
I recall he runs 16/41 with 40hp shot, stretched and lowered for 8.7x , he weighs 140 lbs... give or take an extra feather..
he said it was spinning too much with 16/43... with a 40 hp shot.
Well you are a little off ...On motor NO spray 8.77 using a 16/41 gear and i weigh in at 150 .... On spray 8.56 and that was a 30 shot .... I did try 16 /42 gears and on the motor and all i did was wheely so i went back to 16/41 .. I sold the 42 tooth rear sprocket to Burnout and it helped with his 60 foot times and ET ...I think he weighs a tad over 200 pounds ...Smokin...
LMFAO
That my man ..... is CRUISING!
wow, remind me to keep an eye out for a slightly grizzled fast guy on a red zx14!
How old are you Lee... remind us cause I'm quite impressed !
If i told my age i'd have to kill you ... J/K .... I just turned 51 July 19th ....Born 7/19/56 in Burbank Ca....Yup i'm a left coast crazy Hippie !!! So many drugs, so little time
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mikebar4
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posted August 09, 2007 05:36 PM
your as young as you feel imo............. i went to another track about 3 weeks before i ran the 9.6 with a 1.42 60 ft and here was a slip....
60ft-1.59
1/8- 6.16 @114
1/4- 9.54 @ 144
that night i had the same set up as last sunday besides my airshifter was working, i had a full tank of gas, and i had about 12psi in my tire... the other night i was running about 15psi..
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posted August 10, 2007 09:32 AM
 Edited By: burnout on 10 Aug 2007 10:38
Whatever is wrong is happening on the first half of the track for you. Picking up 30 MPH, the bike is performing excellent on the back half so I would rule out any worries about HP. Try to figure out if it is within the 330 or beyond. If your 330 times are slower than 3.8-3.9 my guess would be that you are spinning, short-shifting, or its your clutch. If you are not already, try using a shift light to eliminate any short shifting even if it is the factory one. Also, have someone stand at the line and listen for your tire breaking loose. Finally, when you make the 1-2 shift does it carry the front wheel? With that gearing if it is not then your clutch is probably slipping or your springs have weakened.
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