1badzx12r
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posted August 14, 2007 10:16 AM
got mine yesterday...installed today...test ride says much better
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bishopzx12
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posted August 14, 2007 11:15 AM
I was checking the archives to find some info on the race vs street bmc filter. I know the race is supposed to flow a little better. do you think that will mean a pony or two more. I remeber when bmc came out with their filter for the zx12 that was a hot debate. Anyone have any insight
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1badzx12r
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posted August 14, 2007 11:46 AM
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I was checking the archives to find some info on the race vs street bmc filter. I know the race is supposed to flow a little better. do you think that will mean a pony or two more. I remeber when bmc came out with their filter for the zx12 that was a hot debate. Anyone have any insight
MY 2 CENTS as thin or see thru as the standard is.... i don't want a race for everyday riding
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FasterThanStink
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posted August 14, 2007 05:49 PM
I used to have a Dachshund named Schnitz. 
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BlackMagic14
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posted August 14, 2007 06:54 PM
Ryan what kind of differences have you seen on the dyno stock VS standard and stock VS race give give LOL also Ryan have you done any testing on the Muzzy adjustable timing sprocket thingy (whatever it is called) what kind of gains are you seeing with those?
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ninjaboy311
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posted August 14, 2007 08:18 PM
I have one of those Muzzy Ignition Advancers for sale if anyone wants to buy it. Installed for 4 races and removed, mint condition. $60.00 shipped for the first person who sends me a PM.
Also, got my BMC in today, fits like a glove. And got my buddys coming in tomorrow, both from Schnitz!! Thanks Ryan!!
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BlackMagic14
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posted August 15, 2007 12:44 AM
Patrick why are you removing the ignition advancer?? Did you see any gains what so ever??
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ninjaboy311
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posted August 15, 2007 05:37 AM
 Edited By: ninjaboy311 on 15 Aug 2007 06:38
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Patrick why are you removing the ignition advancer?? Did you see any gains what so ever??
I only had it installed a short time. Its mostly to help tune bikes with NOS. I don't ever plan on running NOS, so I took it out. I could use it now, but to advance, you have to add the right amount of fuel to avoid detonation, and I'm not one to be tuning the bike. I just like to go to the track and race. I rather just run stock and not worry about adjusting anything.
I had installed it and advanced a few degrees, but never added the fuel. My fault I know. So obviously I didn't see any gains. Would work great if I knew how to tune.
Nothing wrong with it though.
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Pat Dietrich
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posted August 15, 2007 07:39 AM
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Ryan what kind of differences have you seen on the dyno stock VS standard and stock VS race give give LOL also Ryan have you done any testing on the Muzzy adjustable timing sprocket thingy (whatever it is called) what kind of gains are you seeing with those?
I'll get with Ryan on this and see if he wants to do some testing on reg vs race vs no filter with my bike and let you know.
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ryan schnitz
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posted August 15, 2007 07:45 AM
I have not tested the filters... Everyone of them we've received has gone right out the door to waiting customers.
If I had to guess, I would say 2-3 horsepower gain max over stock filter.
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BlackMagic14
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posted August 15, 2007 09:50 AM
Thanks Ryan... If you were to give a guess on potential gains of the Ignition Advancer what would they be...
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ryan schnitz
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posted August 15, 2007 09:55 AM
2-3 max gain.
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BlackMagic14
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posted August 15, 2007 01:53 PM
2-3 filter and 2-3 timing advancer that is not bad 6 hp for 160 bucks cheapest power I ever got LOL
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bishopzx12
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posted August 15, 2007 02:36 PM
Ninja boy pm sent for the advancer
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FasterThanStink
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posted August 15, 2007 03:45 PM
Just ordered a standard BMC from Schnitz for the Ninja II. I've had BMC filters on other bikes and I like them better than K&N. The BMC's seal very well due to their silicone construction. 
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posted August 15, 2007 06:54 PM
Advancer is sold to bishopzx12!!
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bayou boy
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posted August 16, 2007 09:49 AM
got mine on time
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bishopzx12
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posted August 16, 2007 09:54 AM
Ups says mine has been delivered
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v2rider
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posted August 21, 2007 02:49 PM
The K&N seals with a rubber seal, which is as good as the bmc. I believe the BMC and K&N are 50/50, and neither is better than the other
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Pat Dietrich
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posted August 21, 2007 04:49 PM
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The K&N seals with a rubber seal, which is as good as the bmc. I believe the BMC and K&N are 50/50, and neither is better than the other
Depends on what you define better as. For instance- a K&N will show NO hp improvement on a stock busa motor on a dyno where as a BMC will show 3hp. Done the tests, I know. So in my opinion, if your going to spend money on a supposedly performance filter, why buy one that flows no better than stock?? BMC is the better choice. And by the way, My BMC race filter arrived today.
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bigdtd
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posted August 21, 2007 05:10 PM
"BMC is the better choice."
I agree. Its proven hp.
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Wheelie
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posted August 21, 2007 05:17 PM
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The K&N seals with a rubber seal, which is as good as the bmc. I believe the BMC and K&N are 50/50, and neither is better than the other
Depends on what you define better as. For instance- a K&N will show NO hp improvement on a stock busa motor on a dyno where as a BMC will show 3hp. Done the tests, I know. So in my opinion, if your going to spend money on a supposedly performance filter, why buy one that flows no better than stock?? BMC is the better choice. And by the way, My BMC race filter arrived today.
if you want a reusable filter get a K$N, hp gains? get a BMC. wee
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v2rider
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posted August 21, 2007 05:23 PM
Edited By: v2rider on 21 Aug 2007 18:27
I find it almost impossible that the K&N has no more airflow than the stock filter. I would like to see the dyno results on a k&n and a REGULAR, not race bmc in the same bike, side by side. If your talking a RACE bmc, it is thinner, and almost foolish to run on the street with todays air quality. That would also be an unfair comparison compared to a K&N which is guaranteed for both HP gains, and filtration
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Wheelie
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posted August 21, 2007 05:26 PM
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I find it almost impossible that the K&N has no more airflow than the stock filter. I would like to see the dyno results on a k&n and a bmc in the same bike, side by side.
V2 are you a member of gixxer.com? There have been many dyno test over the years on Gixxers with the K&N, test showed the K&N lost hp over stock. wee
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bigdtd
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posted August 21, 2007 05:41 PM
smokin did the test bmc vs no filter = no difference
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