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posted July 12, 2007 12:28 PM
87GTNOS... thanks for enlarging the diagram. Mainly the biggest fear for me was that they wouldn't believe me. later I will post the pictures they made when they took the engine apart. the cilinder head work increased the [power with 12 hp. the rest of the increase are the handmade headers, acrapovic slipons, powercommander 3usb, and a lot of dyno runs.......!!
   
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dubious
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posted July 12, 2007 04:16 PM
 Edited By: dubious on 12 Jul 2007 17:47
87GOTNOS
you asked I answered....
I wonder why sometimes....
Thats not the first time you snubbed me but will be the last.
Fuck you! 
lick my ass! :P
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So 1 point will take me from say example 171 rwhp to approx 176-179 rwhp? How does this affect area under the curve at lower rpms?
I may consider mild head work and valve work this coming winter...
Thanks
Compression actually creates the biggest boost around the torque curve, or peak torque and lower in the rpm.
The porting gives it more on top.
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87gtNOS
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posted July 12, 2007 06:46 PM
Edited By: 87gtNOS on 12 Jul 2007 19:47
Dubious, I don't see your humour. I wasn't snubbing ya...I was mearly stating I understand timing and compression in relation to torque! I race snowmobiles....I kinda know.
So I guess thanks for the reply...I want to learn, not snubb!
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posted July 12, 2007 08:25 PM
Edited By: lietoome on 12 Jul 2007 21:27
the question about timing...
from what I hear, MSD has had awesome #'s with advancing the timing by 4 degrees. There are a lot of prototyped MSD equiped 14s in my neck of the woods. Too bad mine isn't one of them 
my zx12 benifited too, but from what I hear, the 14 responds to timing much better than the 12 did.
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87gtNOS
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posted July 13, 2007 04:09 AM
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the question about timing...
from what I hear, MSD has had awesome #'s with advancing the timing by 4 degrees. There are a lot of prototyped MSD equiped 14s in my neck of the woods. Too bad mine isn't one of them
my zx12 benifited too, but from what I hear, the 14 responds to timing much better than the 12 did.
So obviously no mechanical advancer available yet? That's too bad!
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posted July 13, 2007 07:18 AM
i think muzzy has a mech advancer. It on schnitz site
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dubious
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posted July 13, 2007 07:35 AM
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i think muzzy has a mech advancer. It on schnitz site
yes they do sell ana adjustable timing plate!
timing can be advanced with the hub kit and pc3 as well, for each gear too in fact
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87gtNOS
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posted July 13, 2007 07:44 AM
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i think muzzy has a mech advancer. It on schnitz site
yes they do sell ana adjustable timing plate!
timing can be advanced with the hub kit and pc3 as well, for each gear too in fact
I wonder how much longer we must wait for this product?
http://www.powercommander.com/powercommander_iii_usb/powercommander_all_downloads.aspx?mk=8&mdl=64&yr=2007
'coming soon'?!!!
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posted July 13, 2007 08:24 AM
Edited By: cajunboyz on 13 Jul 2007 09:27
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I wonder how much longer we must wait for this product?
'coming soon'?!!!
Dusty S fr. Powercommander wrote::
We do not have an expected release date at this time. We are still working on new firmware. Thanks
It seems that this product will come out when the next generation "Ninja" will come out????(just a joke,maybe). To us 14 owners,It seems to be just a part number 6-42 in there catalog/ web site??????
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87gtNOS
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posted July 13, 2007 09:15 AM
LOL!!! I am not gonna wait! I think I'll order up a Muzzy advance....we'll see.
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posted July 13, 2007 10:40 AM
Edited By: dubious on 13 Jul 2007 11:42
hmmm my bad, forgot to mention ignition module also required with hub to trim ignition and fuel maps for each gear.
I really think that would be splitting hairs for fractions of 1 HP though.
More for drivability than full throttle applications IMO.
Even then, would we notice?
http://www.hardracing.com/DynoJet/HubManual.htm
Muzzy timing plate should do what ya need to see any noticable changes.
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87gtNOS
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posted July 13, 2007 10:46 AM
Holy chit, my wife is gonna kill me!! LOL!! I think I'll just stick to the Muzzy plate. I need to save up still for my PCIII for my sled next winter!
You're right, I think that USB HUB stuff is way overkill. Maybe a good idea if you run a big bore kit or something like nitrous or turbo!!
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posted July 13, 2007 11:15 AM
NITROUS I am.
Hub and LCD, PC3 but no ign module.
6" over TRAC arm, muzzy shifter & 50HP shot, Wego 3 A/F monitor,
MSD light activating the shifter!
ohlins shock, scotts damper, brocks billet tie down mounts, adj lowering link,
16/44 gears .....
Galfer lines etc etc...
stuff should be here next week!
Goin drag racing!
Maybe turbo over the winter...
No ugly assed new busa in my garage!
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