johnsonzx14
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posted June 28, 2007 07:03 PM
new oil pan 850.00!??
Thats schnitz's price... Pretty high.. Im sure they are awesome though, any amount is better than busting your oil pan on something and wrecking and getting hurt...
  
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BlackMagic14
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posted June 28, 2007 11:38 PM
Hopefully the ones from RPM will be available in the next couple of weeks at 500
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stu64
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posted June 29, 2007 03:23 AM
Fuckin' scalpers,they know no one else has em ready to sell so their naming their price.
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posted June 29, 2007 04:37 AM
Supply and demand. Market sets the price.
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BobC
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posted June 29, 2007 05:15 AM
It's a specialist item, labor intensive to produce and it will most likely sell in low volumes, that determines the initial price.
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posted June 29, 2007 06:27 AM
It's not a hollow pan like others make with the swinging pickups so the CNC time is probably 4x & includes a billet filter relocate plate.
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ZXLNT
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posted June 29, 2007 06:48 AM
But you still have to price it so that people can justify buying. 850 is too much. It is a nice piece though..
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chunter
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posted June 29, 2007 07:05 AM
He has to make a profit too. With all that is included in it if the price was in the $500 range it'd be a lose of a few hundred per.
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stevewfl
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posted June 29, 2007 08:51 AM
500 is still high. and does it hold less oil? sounds as if it belongs on a trailer queen race bike?
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posted June 29, 2007 09:56 AM
 Edited By: SteddyTeddy on 29 Jun 2007 10:57
For the machine time to set up and do just a few $850 is probably in the ball park. Now if they can do a large run on a programmed CNC the price should fall. If all else fails, farm it out to China.
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chunter
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posted June 29, 2007 11:05 AM
Basing the pricing vs a hollow pan with far less technology is like apples and oranges.
If the price was $400 it wouldn't be cheap enough for some still.
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johnsonzx14
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posted June 29, 2007 06:54 PM
Yup, I still want one, but damn that is toooooo high....
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posted June 29, 2007 08:27 PM
If it prevents the bike from starving of oil like Iphly's ....then $850 well spent.
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posted June 29, 2007 09:53 PM
Edited By: stevewfl on 29 Jun 2007 22:59
man if I have to pay $850 for an oil pan for any bike of mine to make it reliable I'm going to push the whole bike into the lake and consider it utter junk. I've never heard of such a crazy thing. I don't mind spending on performance but geez an oil pan??? c;mon....
and don't even think I don't run my bikes hard
here is a resource for an online shrink if you think spending $850 for an oil pan is a good thing http://www.shrink-me.com/
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posted June 30, 2007 01:23 AM
Well I can say I am somewhat dissapointed in the price point on the pan. Rest assured its probably a very high quality piece, but there ARE other options, or will be. No one says you HAVE to buy the adams pan, it is a free marketplace afterall
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iflyems
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posted June 30, 2007 06:20 AM
The pan is made by Coby Adams, and is no doubt a very high quality piece, and tested.
I'm looking into buying one for my turbo. Its a hell of a lot cheaper than a set of rods, or dumping it on the track because you knock the drain plug off on the stock pan.
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posted June 30, 2007 07:52 AM
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The pan is made by Coby Adams, and is no doubt a very high quality piece, and tested.
I'm looking into buying one for my turbo. Its a hell of a lot cheaper than a set of rods, or dumping it on the track because you knock the drain plug off on the stock pan.
Stevewfl,
this was my point.
Stock bikes don't generate g forces to starve the engine, but turbo's and nitrous with extended arms DO!
Why have they made swivel oil pump pickups for zx10's, Gixxer 1 K's, Busa's , zx11's, .....etc etc.
This has been a common problem on many bikes.
Stevie ..... you really should have known. 
As far as shrinks go i gave up long time ago.
I'm not curable 
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posted June 30, 2007 08:02 AM
ya, I mentioned the badazz trailer queen bikes lowered to the ground with a gazzillion HP popping up along the straight line may truly have a use. I never did spend enough seat time on my bike to understand the whole straight line thing, and knee-draggers just don't need such. As far as my bikes, I'll push it in them in river if it proves to need an $850 oil pan.
Then I'll go see that shrink to figure out why I was so silly to purchase such a bike needing an oil pan when i could've bought a realiable HONDA from the get-go :P
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posted June 30, 2007 08:27 AM
Stevie must be hung over, or couldn't find a skiny skank and had to take himself last night.
Stevie, You seem especially disgruntled today, spamming all posts, arguementive and generally making a bitch of yourself.
Whats up?
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ZXLNT
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posted June 30, 2007 08:32 AM
Steve its not that the ZX14 isn't reliable. When you start drag racing and modifying stuff for horsepower then you sacrifice some of that reliability and streetability. A daily driver ZX14 wont need a pan like that, and as mentioned before Coby's pan isn't the only thats gonna be available.
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posted June 30, 2007 09:05 AM
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Stevie must be hung over, or couldn't find a skiny skank and had to take himself last night.
Stevie, You seem especially disgruntled today, spamming all posts, arguementive and generally making a bitch of yourself.
Whats up?
me spam and be disgruntled? wait a sec, I was agreeing with you and the fact I completely understand making that much HP may require some serious parts I know nothing about, and humbly stated I never took the time to understand the straightline thingie anyway 
maybe you're disgruntled cuz I find it so hard to accept an oil pan made for any bike engine is worth $850? I think the supply and demand model in this country will correct that price anyway. but of course I may be wrong again I have no clue what I'm talking about when it comes to straight line stuff.
My ZX14 is for riding the streets, and I'm not too pleased with the rear seat design anyway when it comes to spur of the moment putting chicks on the back I have to remove four screws or have a spare seat in my pocket.
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posted June 30, 2007 10:02 AM
sorry dude,
context and impression lost in webspace once again.
If it means we must pay someone $850 to prevent a 11,000 bike with $5000 turbo, and another $5000 in extra equipment as some have, from tearing itself to bits then so be it.
Owners have already made the comitment when they have delved in that deep, pointless to park it, keep blowing engines, or sell it all at a huge loss.
Development, labour, tooling and equipment cost must be recouped.
Its not like a small block chevy intake manifold where they will sell 10's maybe 100's of thousands of them.
I just hope the wholesaler and retailers aren't scalping us, and the manufacturer is receiving a majority of that money.
I admire their dedication to the sport.
Adams and the other development race teams could just as easilly keep the developments to themselves, and win every race!
Compared to running a car in the 8's , our sport stil is cheap.
Its all a matter of perspective, and desire I guess
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posted June 30, 2007 07:02 PM
dub, I'm not going to argue your point but as far as me spamming and being a grouch I'll say this: I spoke with a guy that owns a tubo busa (that runs maxton) and 2 people that have nitrous on their Zx14's. And I will not even tell you what each said in regards to an "$850" oil pan for the ZX14. And I heard of a lot of ways to beat the drain plug pointing down, and I heard of ways of pumping more oil, and everything else. Again, I won't comment on what was said about the $850 solution...... it may be off topic and just
One of the guys did ask for a pic of this oil pan, if you buy one hopefully you can post up for us
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BlackMagic14
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posted June 30, 2007 07:17 PM
I should have pictures of the one from RPM in about a week or so hopefully... It will be 4.5 qt pan with the Filter relocated and a swivel style pickup I cant WAIT did I mention it is only 500 bucks LOL I thought 500 was a little high but 850 for something Coby addams told me WAS NONEXISTENT 3 weeks ago is WAY TO HIGH!!!
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ZXLNT
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posted June 30, 2007 08:32 PM
Edited By: ZXLNT on 30 Jun 2007 21:32
BM If I were to guess Coby probably didn't want to release information on them until he was good and ready too and was sure it would work properly. Sounds like a good practice to me, but yeah 850 is tooooooo damn much..
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