zx1kr
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posted June 06, 2007 05:53 PM
HOLE RUBBED THROUGH OIL FILTER!!!!!
Tru195 recently traded in his 14 for a GSXR1k. Well, the 14 was bought from the dealer & 1 week later the owner had a serious problem arise. The Brock's StreetMeg header tube had rubbed clear through the oil filter spewing oil all over the 14. After hearing this, I promptly dropped my oil & filter to check the issue. I had less than 800 miles on the filter, it was severely rubbed out. If I were to try to get another 800 miles out of this filter it would have failed.
This post is not a shot at the Brocks Pipe (I own one) It is a safety issue. If you're running this header & have close to 1000 miles on your oil filter, you might want to do what I did. Check the oil filter for wear on the outer housing. I'm glad I did!
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posted June 06, 2007 07:54 PM
There are 3 filters lengths you can try I have to use the K&N for my 14 with the Yoshi the puralator sizes will hit.
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dubious
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posted June 06, 2007 08:08 PM
good heads up dood!
I knew there was a clearance issue, and adjusted my header during instal.
Mine is VERY close, but does not rub!
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blackbullet76
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posted June 07, 2007 03:52 AM
 Edited By: blackbullet76 on 7 Jun 2007 04:53
what about the fram filter? I'm looking at getting this exhaust, but I don't want problems
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kawiguy3
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posted June 07, 2007 04:26 AM
the newer street meg have been changed in this area, there is a ton of clearence. I think smokin allready made a topic on the new pipes.??
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Nelson Taylor
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posted June 07, 2007 09:24 AM
Thanks for the FYI.
Thats something to pay attention to as people buy used a SMEG.
Never know which one your getting the old or new.
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Brock
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posted June 07, 2007 02:23 PM
zx1kr,
Please post or e-mail (brock@brockracing.com) photo's etc.
I am VERY surprised we have not heard for this person directly? I'm certain he is very unhappy to say the least.....
We have sold many ZX-14 Street Meg systems,older and "revised" style and this is the first time anyone has claimed an actual safety issue in regard to a filter failing due to clearance problems.
We take items like this VERY seriously and would like to check the system in question on our fixture to see what could be wrong. We will even offer a replacement system to the owner while we are checking so his bike is not down during our tests.
FYI: to date the only other system which could have been close enough to actually damage the filter was BENT due to speed bumps/wheelies etc. This system was literally PINNED AGAINST the filter for many miles and there was still no rupture of the filter housing or oil leakage as a result.
That being said, we are human and we do make mistakes. We will do everything in our power to correct this issue with ZERO cost to the owner and we will even credit his Brock's Performance in-house account to compensate him for time invested to help us determine the cause of the problem.
I am out of town at a race this weekend, so please have him call my office 937-298-6818 or e-mail me directly at brock@brockracing.com with his contact information.
I will call him on my cell phone immediately to address this issue.
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zx1kr
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posted June 07, 2007 08:08 PM
I have my oil filter, I can take pics of that & post'em. As far as the fellow that bought Tru195's bike. He purchased it through Maximum Motorsports in Riverhead NY. I believe their # is 631-727-5988. I was told of this by an employee that works there. He knew I rode a 14 & also knew that I had the same pipe. That is why I dropped the filter to check it, and yes mine was also showing significant wear on the housing. Tru195 might have the guys contact info. He's on Vacation, be back tommorrow.
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BlackMagic14
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posted June 07, 2007 08:49 PM
Mine was very close as well When I talked to Brock about it he said that I should Loosen the bracket that attaches the megaphone to the rear footrest and Push the whole system forward this seemed to work, But as I will soon have a new billet oil pan from RPM Cycle I dont think I will have any more problems since it will relocate the oil filter
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stevewfl
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posted June 07, 2007 09:09 PM
I sent an e-mail to Brock's about my header being close and Brock e-mailed me back, tech support called me, and I'll just say ultimately it has been resolved.
Brock has the best customer care of anyone I think I have ever dealt with on any product,
I call BS regarding folks posting up complaints in a public forum "before" simply contacting the vendor.
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zx1kr
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posted June 08, 2007 08:28 AM
quote:
I sent an e-mail to Brock's about my header being close and Brock e-mailed me back, tech support called me, and I'll just say ultimately it has been resolved.
Brock has the best customer care of anyone I think I have ever dealt with on any product,
I call BS regarding folks posting up complaints in a public forum "before" simply contacting the vendor.
This was not a "complaint" it was something I thought the owners of this exhaust should be made aware of in order to not have someone get KILLED! I own the pipe. I'm not looking to change the pipe. I have attempted to adjust this pipe, didn't go back to check it until I heard of this situation. My filter was on it's way to rupturing also. I have complete faith in Brock's to do whatever necessary to straighten out any issues. For the record, I probably wouldn't even thought twice about it if my filter hadn't shown wear. But, in the same breath I'm not going to do the politically correct thing and "Keep Quiet" about the situation , then sign on Bikeland one night to read some post about someone getting killed because of a problem I could've shed light on. So, you call it what you like, but it could be you sliding down the road with oil all over your rear tire! Just look at it in that light, I'm sure you'll see things differently!
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posted June 08, 2007 11:14 AM
Just a FYI. When I installed my Gen3, I also noticed the pipe was going to rub the filter. I loosened everything back up, and adjusted the pipes, and now it not only doesn't touch, but I have enough room to remove the filter. It may be possible that you guys didn't get your pipes adjusted quite right. Sometimes it takes a little time.
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zx1kr
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posted June 08, 2007 11:26 AM
quote:
Just a FYI. When I installed my Gen3, I also noticed the pipe was going to rub the filter. I loosened everything back up, and adjusted the pipes, and now it not only doesn't touch, but I have enough room to remove the filter. It may be possible that you guys didn't get your pipes adjusted quite right. Sometimes it takes a little time.
Listen, I get what you're saying. I've done exactly that- adjusted the pipe. I knew this was going to turn into this. I posted this thread to make the owners of this pipe aware of a "POTENTIAL ISSUE" & to turn their oil filters a 1/2 turn around & check for wear. Just like I did & guess what it was rubbing. I wouldn't have checked it if I didn't hear about Tru195's Bike. You guys can do as you wish at this point. I'll sleep good tonight.
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shawnski
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posted June 08, 2007 11:39 AM
yab... i paid the shop that installed mine extra 80 dollars because he had to redo the the entire thing again and it was almost rubbing against the oil filter. i did the 600 miles oil change 2 weeks ago and i have almost half a inch space between them.
the mid pipe was touching the frame too causing little vibration.
thanks for the heads up anyway.
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fastestbusaaround
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posted June 08, 2007 12:06 PM
Brock -- he's the king of service guys!! I doubt any other dealer/distributor would have made such an offer. Thanks for the heads up to both Bill & Brock!
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BlackMagic14
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posted June 08, 2007 12:39 PM
Yeah I dont see how this can turn into any kind of BASHING thread Both Bill and Brock are well known on this site and respected, Bill stated something that Brock himself has warned about and Brock replied that he will do everyhting in his power to fix it at no cost sounds like a happy ending to me
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Xtremespeed
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posted June 08, 2007 01:31 PM
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I knew this was going to turn into this.
Turn in to what?
I just posted what I noticed on mine so people could check theirs. Thought
it might be helpful to you or others. I actually felt I was backing your
findings and offering a possible solution. Sorry you didn't appreciate it.
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stevewfl
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posted June 08, 2007 02:29 PM
This thread may not have been bashing, but its overall 
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countersteer
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posted June 08, 2007 02:40 PM
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This thread may not have been bashing, but its overall
steve, how is this thread lame? i talked to the service manager at maximum today while i got my inspection, and he agreed that the header on brocks pipe was the cause. after that, i headed out to bills shop to check out the new ohlins forks and bst carbon wheels he has and - i held the filter in my hand - it was ground down enough to the point where oil could easily start pouring out if left unnoticed. to my knowledge, this is just an issue with the street systems, i spoke to joey hahn today and he said he has only dealt with the sidewinders and everything is cool with that. at the very least, members with brock systems should check their filters and be thankful bill mentioned it. i inspected bills filter and took pics, no doubt in my mind that there was some serious rubbing and vibrating.
from what ive gathered, brock had better offer "great customer service" in order to avoid a lawsuit, especially from the guy who wiped out. i even recall reading some posts in the past where people installing the headers mentioned it being so close to the filter. bill is a stand up guy and a very honest businessman - he has nothing to gain or lose by bringing this information up to the attention of bikeland members. brock, on the other hand, has everything to lose featuring a faulty product.
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posted June 08, 2007 02:44 PM
bill did the guy who bought daves bike from maximum actually wipe out? not sure if he did or not, but if he did indeed crash i dont think brock offering a new header for free is good enough compensation, or "customer service" for that matter.
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posted June 08, 2007 02:52 PM
Edited By: stevewfl on 8 Jun 2007 15:52
For the fact you are introducing some total 3rd party hear-say CR, I found your posts surprising.
I can't comment anything except "for" Brock. I had an issue right after I got my header and it was immediately resolved, and per above I had an issue with my filter being "close", and that was resolved as well.
Sure this is an uncensored forum allowing one to post what he chooses. But to post such on a public forum forces me to question people's motives and general ethics is all I'm saying, and it being public I'm posting the fact I find the whole thing totally
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countersteer
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posted June 08, 2007 03:00 PM
dude im uploading the pics of bills filter right now. personally im a little appauled by this whole thing. bills "motives" are nothing more than to help warn fellow bikers about a potential safety issue. bill has nothing to gain or lose from mentioning this, and im shocked that some of you are throwing it back into his face for bringing this to light. bill is a real solid guy, and i cant believe you are calling this lame. perhaps you should go check on your own filter for damage instead of throwing this in bills face. and its not third person hear-say, i actually talked to the service manager at maximum today, as well as seeing the filter bill took off his own bike. that is good enough for me to be weary of brocks products, better safe than sorry.
maybe youll change your tone after you see the pics i took this afternoon.
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sideways
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posted June 08, 2007 03:45 PM
I have Brocks smeg pipe, almost 5k with it. Just went out and checked it, about a finger's width all the way around filter. Didn't notice any rubbing, burning or wear on the filter!
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BlackMagic14
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posted June 08, 2007 03:48 PM
Where are the pics!!! and by the way what you stated is THE DEFINITION OF HEAR SAY, I talked to so and so who sold so and so the bike LMAO what a CHOAD!!!! hey while you are uploading pictures let us see some more pictures of that FABALOUS ZX12 you got, The Fresh Prince called and he wants his paint job back LMAO, also I looked back and I didnt read one single comment knocking Bill
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countersteer
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posted June 08, 2007 04:44 PM
Edited By: countersteer on 8 Jun 2007 18:05
dude you are retarded, and you really bastardized your 14. arent you one of the many people who bought brocks because you were told to do so by other members without doing any research of your own? yours would be identical to every other 14 around here, except you added those miserable chopper parts. my 12 shits all over your 14 any day of the week, and i gaurantee i will outride you as well. anyway, after searching and viewing your numerous brilliant posts, i found one entitled "Street Meg HEADER HITTIN OIL FILTER". i guess either you are just genuinely a dumbass, or you encountered a similar problem being discussed here. anyway, youre trying to turn this thread into smack material because youre a spiteful fuck. id reccomend you at least wash your 14 before you start talking shit. for the record, my favorite of your posts was you broadcasting a pic of your wifes tits for the whole net to see.
anyway, verizon locked my picture account so im going to foward it to a friend, who will email it to me when i get around to it. i could text msg the pic to anyone if they wish to post it up for me. trying to help out some motorcyclists is just too much for some to handle around here... not exactly surprising.
basically, everyone except blackmagic might want to check their filter, ill leave it at that until i get the pics up.
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