serius blk
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posted May 28, 2007 02:32 PM
60 foot. weight or just skill
i want to know if its skill or weight to make a good 60 foot happen. I look at smokin with his good 60 numbers who is a light weight vs ninjaboy who 235 suited but extended longer. Or is it just skill mostly. Mind you when i say weight i am also saying the rider has some skill in the first place.
  
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bigdtd
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posted May 28, 2007 02:49 PM
skill
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smokinzx14
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posted May 28, 2007 03:11 PM
Seat time ...
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Bently
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posted May 28, 2007 03:38 PM
Seat time is right, I've had a best of a 1.45 at 215 suited at 62.5 inches
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ninjaboy311
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posted May 28, 2007 05:25 PM
Smokin is right, seat time does it, also get to know your bike and how it launches. For me, the long swingarm gives me confidence that it will not flip over backwards. From there, I just launched it harder and harder till I got down to a 1.33.
Practice, practice, practice.
Just remember to start out at the bottom and work your way up. There was a guy one time watching me launch, and he came to me saying that he wished he could launch that hard. Next thing I saw was him going 12 o'clock, slamming it down and busting his oil pan, and wiping out.
Be careful out there.
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nightmare
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posted May 28, 2007 06:49 PM
practice makes perfect! Or damn near perfect anyway!
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serius blk
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posted May 28, 2007 07:09 PM
does anyone now how ricky gadson keeps the front wheel lifted a few inches when he takes off. I have seen him do it on alot of different bikes. I have practice drag the clutch. I dont think hes draging it. I tried listening to the sound the bike makes. Is it possible he just feathering it in and out. And if so wouldnt that burn the clutches up alot faster.
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Big_T_11
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posted May 28, 2007 07:22 PM
Yes it would but he does not pay for them. :]
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ninja12
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posted May 28, 2007 07:43 PM
quote:
does anyone now how ricky gadson keeps the front wheel lifted a few inches when he takes off. I have seen him do it on alot of different bikes. I have practice drag the clutch. I dont think hes draging it. I tried listening to the sound the bike makes. Is it possible he just feathering it in and out. And if so wouldnt that burn the clutches up alot faster.
He's one of the best in the world, with skills most can't even dream about.
If you ever watch the greats they are making adustments "WITHIN THE FIRST 60' " .
He know what the bike is doing and how to make it do what he wants realtime.
Many good rider can do it on their personal bike, but the greats can do it on just about any bike.
Ever see Ryan or Ricky jump on some guys bike and make it run faster than it has ever been or will probably ever go again. Yes he is making clutch and throttle adjustments to keep the front lifted
and the rear planted.
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SteddyTeddy
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posted May 29, 2007 05:40 AM
Pratice and lots of seat time. Some pick it up faster than others. It takes a certain amount of the NO FEAR atitude also. I've been racing next to Smoking for almost 2 years now. He just makes it look so easy.
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salsa1
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posted May 29, 2007 06:21 AM
 Edited By: salsa1 on 29 May 2007 07:24
A wheelie bar and solid strut is my next option...thats my plan ...nothing wrong with it if you want a short cut instead of spending lots of seat time...
I don't spend all my time at the local dragstrip and still want to launch very hard while I am there...got rusty over winter seems like ...done both ;the stock wheelbase and 6" extended swing arm routine...
I just put a bigger sprocket in the rear and it shortened my wheelbase enough to make hard launches difficult ...plus the extra response of a bigger rear sprocket made the bike harder to be consistent...it bites hard fast and wheelies too easy..even with 5.5" extended...
last year I did ok but want better 60 ft than 1.57's...
This is on a ZX-10R.. I love the response and power but had too much trouble when geared perfectly low...I weigh about 207 before suiting up.. bit heavy I know..
Time for me to progress with a wheelie bar anyways...
Have fun!! 
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Nelson Taylor
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posted May 29, 2007 09:27 AM
Seriousblk,
Its takes seat time, the bike being setup for hard launches, and some fearlessness.
Find a couple of good riders at your local track who you know can launch a bike really well and watch them from the starting line. Pay attention to their launch rpm's, body positions, clutch hand, and talk to them about what they focus on when there leaving the line. Then you go out and practice using some of their techniques, but make sure your comfortable and feel incontrol of your bike.
Another thing whenever your racing at the track make sure you line up next to someone who better than you. No sense in beating up on your buddies and your not getting any better. That better rider in the other lane will push you.
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the blue mule
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posted May 29, 2007 03:38 PM
lower it, every inch is worth a tenth.
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ninjaboy311
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posted May 29, 2007 04:07 PM
Sit back and watch a couple videos...
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CrotchRocket
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posted May 29, 2007 04:30 PM
Seat time is an understatement...It takes years to be consistant !!!
Great post !!!...Tell us how long " YOU " have been DragRacing!!!
I've been DragRacing for 7 years, started in 2000!!!
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ninjaboy311
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posted May 29, 2007 06:49 PM
Started in 2000 on a ZX-9R, then quit from '01 to May of '03.
Then got my '00 ZX-12R and raced nearly every weekend since!!
Got my ZX-14 last September and started racing it last October.
ZX-14 was by far the easiest bike to drag race (due in part to the way I have it set-up).
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calvin
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posted June 01, 2007 02:07 AM
is that you racing on the 14? how much you weigh? how do you have it set up?
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ninjaboy311
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posted June 01, 2007 09:39 AM
Yes that is me. I weigh 207 unsuited.
McIntosh Alumipro Arm, set at 11" (69" total wheelbase)
Stock rear shock with Naarden Speedlinks. Stock clutch, had Muzzy sidewinder as seen in the vid's, now have a Tsukigi sidewinder. Galespeed Type C wheels, Shinko U-soft, U4 fuel, PCIII, 2nd flies removed, air filter removed, 16-43 gearing, air shifter, shift light, catalyst drag seat, Puig wind screen, GPR steering damper, thats about it I think.
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gms118
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posted June 11, 2007 03:56 PM
keep kickin ass. It feels good to see a busa left at a light! LOL
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