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posted May 14, 2007 01:42 AM
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Arm or not its still 354cc less displacement. I still go with the larger cc and tq for max speed but catch one our itty bitty 1ks in the right rpm and its lunch time well up to a point than the TQ and CC take over but not many will hold it open that long. There all fast and all it takes a lil bottle of go go juice and good gas and it's anyones game
  
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Bently
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posted May 14, 2007 05:42 AM
Hate to say it but that 1000 could out run a 14 with the right rider. If the rider of that 1000 is 160lbs, that combo would be at least 150 to 160 lbs lighter then me and my 14.
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posted May 14, 2007 05:56 AM
here we go again, now is gxr1000 vs. zx14, last week was zx10 vs. zx14, come on folks all of these bikes are very fast and close to each other, all it takes is modification, great rider vs. ok rider and u got beat. 
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posted May 14, 2007 01:54 PM
Exactly shawnski I'm more worried about the liter bikes now then the Busa's. The Busa has to be a well tuned 1397 to keep with the 14, as long as the riders are equal.
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posted May 14, 2007 02:20 PM
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here we go again, now is gxr1000 vs. zx14, last week was zx10 vs. zx14, come on folks all of these bikes are very fast and close to each other, all it takes is modification, great rider vs. ok rider and u got beat.
 Oh wow, the guys in ZX12.com are going to be MAD you didn't mention their bike!!!
I may personally call Mr. Hill and entropy over this one
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shawnski
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posted May 14, 2007 02:26 PM
gees..... sorry man, it is monday, please mr. hill don't be mad at me.:P
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RICH CRAFT 1
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posted May 14, 2007 02:32 PM
Ive never been beat by a gxsr all things being equal. And dont expect to be beaten by one all things being equal. Yes they smaller CCs but they are lighter and pounds per CC they are about the same.
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posted May 14, 2007 02:59 PM
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this gixxer wasn't fast enought
Fuck that cop. That chase was totally out of line. That redneck piece of shit pig will be flipping burgers when they are done with him
pretty much. Rider gets the right lawyer he'll probably be getting some money or the cop getting a new job title. Hell the cruiser running like a maniac around traffic was more of a danger to those on the highway lights on or not. Bike rips around traffic and messes up and it's usually just the rider that dies. But a 4000ib police car.... 
And retards like you will be in prison, again, or in a grave. Guys like you are the reason we have such high insurance! You Also keep the coroners office busy! The cop was totally out of line for pushing the bike over, thats for sure but it never would have happened if the rider would have stopped like he was supposed to.
Back on topic. I have both bikes and they both are modified. I think the Gixxer feels quicker due to its weight and fast revving motor but the ZX14 feels faster top end. But if I put them side to side at the end of a mile they would probably be close.
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posted May 14, 2007 03:16 PM
"Guys like you are the reason we have such high insurance! "
Insurance is dirt cheap in FL.
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Big_T_11
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posted May 14, 2007 06:37 PM
We will see Thursday night at the track. I think I can take him.
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posted May 14, 2007 06:39 PM
Keep us posted on the outcome and what kind of times you both turn!
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zx1kr
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posted May 14, 2007 06:42 PM
Head to head with equal mods, I walk on my buddies 07 gsxr 1000 all day long with my 14.
He's a member of this board & if he's on he'll vouch for it.
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shawnski
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posted May 15, 2007 07:57 AM
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this gixxer wasn't fast enought
Fuck that cop. That chase was totally out of line. That redneck piece of shit pig will be flipping burgers when they are done with him
pretty much. Rider gets the right lawyer he'll probably be getting some money or the cop getting a new job title. Hell the cruiser running like a maniac around traffic was more of a danger to those on the highway lights on or not. Bike rips around traffic and messes up and it's usually just the rider that dies. But a 4000ib police car....
And retards like you will be in prison, again, or in a grave. Guys like you are the reason we have such high insurance! You Also keep the coroners office busy! The cop was totally out of line for pushing the bike over, thats for sure but it never would have happened if the rider would have stopped like he was supposed to.
Back on topic. I have both bikes and they both are modified. I think the Gixxer feels quicker due to its weight and fast revving motor but the ZX14 feels faster top end. But if I put them side to side at the end of a mile they would probably be close.
wrong of him to take off to start the chase, u will never win. the asshole cop did not have the right to knock his bike done regardless how pissed off he was. typical ASSHOLE LAW OFFICER.
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posted May 15, 2007 10:03 AM
Funny thread. I ran a '07 Gixxer last Sunday with pipe, lowered, yada, yada, yada and he got the same azz whippin' as his brother's '02 Busa. The thing that I must add is I couldn't tell who got their ass beat the worse since I was so far out on them. The Busa rider stopped by my house yesterday to tell me that his 2nd gear is acting up....LOL.
BTW, the rider on the 1000 is only about 155 lbs. He's skin and bones so I beg the differ to see an '07 1000 beat a similar prepped 14.
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posted May 15, 2007 10:13 AM
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Funny thread. I ran a '07 Gixxer last Sunday with pipe, lowered, yada, yada, yada and he got the same azz whippin' as his brother's '02 Busa. The thing that I must add is I couldn't tell who got their ass beat the worse since I was so far out on them. The Busa rider stopped by my house yesterday to tell me that his 2nd gear is acting up....LOL.
BTW, the rider on the 1000 is only about 155 lbs. He's skin and bones so I beg the differ to see an '07 1000 beat a similar prepped 14.
or..... i missed a gear :d
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Big_T_11
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posted May 15, 2007 04:34 PM
Well 2 more days tyill we find out. Calling for 75 degree's out Thursday night. Everybody from work is going to the track.
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posted May 15, 2007 05:20 PM
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Exactly shawnski I'm more worried about the liter bikes now then the Busa's. The Busa has to be a well tuned 1397 to keep with the 14, as long as the riders are equal.
Now everyone knows that I am fan of the 14 more then anyone but this statement is ridiculous!!! a 1397 busa with the same rider IS faster than a stock motored 14... a stock motored 14 is 190 hp at THE MOST a 1397 with a decent tune is 215 average just stating the obvious
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posted May 15, 2007 05:30 PM
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Exactly shawnski I'm more worried about the liter bikes now then the Busa's. The Busa has to be a well tuned 1397 to keep with the 14, as long as the riders are equal.
Now everyone knows that I am fan of the 14 more then anyone but this statement is ridiculous!!! a 1397 busa with the same rider IS faster than a stock motored 14... a stock motored 14 is 190 hp at THE MOST a 1397 with a decent tune is 215 average just stating the obvious
I don't think he ment a stock zx14 will run with a 1397 busa ... But a stock motored zx14 on U4 or MR9 with a good map and pipe and flys removed will and in my case has beaten busas with 1397 motors ... I had one Busa with a 1397 motor beat me but he also had a wet shot...And you could not drive that bike on the street ....Hell he needed two batterys just to start it ...
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posted May 15, 2007 05:37 PM
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Well 2 more days tyill we find out. Calling for 75 degree's out Thursday night. Everybody from work is going to the track.
Good luck .... Can you give us some more info like his mods , your mods, wheel base both bikes.. Weight of both riders and riding skills ?? The bikes are very close and rider skills and WT could make all the difference in the race ...
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posted May 15, 2007 05:45 PM
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posted May 15, 2007 05:48 PM
another dead thread about some bike vs. the 14- the proof is look how far off topic it has gotten.
"The 07 Suzuki 1000 is Faster than my 14"
And to the folks that truly believe all this crap I say:
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posted May 15, 2007 06:41 PM
Edited By: Big_T_11 on 15 May 2007 19:52
He's 68" inch over I am 63", I have a Smeg and he has a Ti force, Both lowered and strapped, Don't know about his filter I have the screen off. Mine has the flies out and Brock race map. his has a Lee's map. He is 1 down front up ? on back, I am 1 down on front stock back, I am 218 lbs he is 180 ish? I am better than average rider with a lot of exeperince with high HP bikes, (I have owned many Turbo bikes and actually won a streetbike shootout in 2001 on my Turbo Busa at A. I. Dragway in Alabama). Mike (Friend) Curently owns one of Velocity Racings last years 60" inch shootout bikes, A really nice KWS built 68" inch NOS busa and 2 GSXR 1000's 04 & 07. He also is a better than average rider. We will see the day after tomorrow, It's all in fun anyway. Win or loose I just like to play. I would not trade my 14 for a 1000 anyday. Here is that $2000 dollar final run win from 2001 on my custom painted 68" inch turbo busa. I was up against another turbo busa in the final. It was a nice 1/4 mile pass and I won!
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posted May 15, 2007 07:30 PM
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He's 68" inch over I am 63", I have a Smeg and he has a Ti force, Both lowered and strapped, Don't know about his filter I have the screen off. Mine has the flies out and Brock race map. his has a Lee's map. He is 1 down front up ? on back, I am 1 down on front stock back, I am 218 lbs he is 180 ish? I am better than average rider with a lot of exeperince with high HP bikes, (I have owned many Turbo bikes and actually won a streetbike shootout in 2001 on my Turbo Busa at A. I. Dragway in Alabama). Mike (Friend) Curently owns one of Velocity Racings last years 60" inch shootout bikes, A really nice KWS built 68" inch NOS busa and 2 GSXR 1000's 04 & 07. He also is a better than average rider. We will see the day after tomorrow, It's all in fun anyway. Win or loose I just like to play. I would not trade my 14 for a 1000 anyday. Here is that $2000 dollar final run win from 2001 on my custom painted 68" inch turbo busa. I was up against another turbo busa in the final. It was a nice 1/4 mile pass and I won!
Thanks Big T good info...... I really have a hard time picking a winner here ... You are allmost 40 pounds heavier than him and that makes a difference ...He is longer by five inches ..That a big help for him.... He will be able to leave at 8000 or higher without fear of wheeling ...You do have more torq down low and makes up for some of that ..... What i see with the fast gixxers down here is even at 68 inches i 60 foot better on my zx14 than them...But i'm a light weight ... Gixxers MPH real good so i don't think you will out MPH him... This is a tuff call but i think he got ya coved unless you can tree him and out 60 foot him ... Based on your 5.90 1/8 mile run you posted you are going to run around 9.30s @ 147 to 149 ......That Gixxer on motor can run 9 flats @ 150 to 151 on motor .....Big T cut a good light and get that 60 footer to 1.40 and you got a chance ...One other thing that may help is Pull your filter ..I pick up a half a tenth and about one MPH ... Also get some MR9 fuel.. Brocks race map is set up for NO filter and MR9 Fuel ...Good luck Big T and keep us posted .. We are all pullin for you ...Smokin...
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posted May 15, 2007 09:34 PM
I agree with Smokin with the weight difference and 5 inches he is gonna win a tight race but he should consistently beat you... but where do you live? for a small finders fee I might be able to arrange Smokin to come out there and beat up on this guy for you LOL (wink wink)
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posted May 15, 2007 09:36 PM
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Exactly shawnski I'm more worried about the liter bikes now then the Busa's. The Busa has to be a well tuned 1397 to keep with the 14, as long as the riders are equal.
Now everyone knows that I am fan of the 14 more then anyone but this statement is ridiculous!!! a 1397 busa with the same rider IS faster than a stock motored 14... a stock motored 14 is 190 hp at THE MOST a 1397 with a decent tune is 215 average just stating the obvious
I don't think he ment a stock zx14 will run with a 1397 busa ... But a stock motored zx14 on U4 or MR9 with a good map and pipe and flys removed will and in my case has beaten busas with 1397 motors ... I had one Busa with a 1397 motor beat me but he also had a wet shot...And you could not drive that bike on the street ....Hell he needed two batterys just to start it ...
Smokin you make a good point but you forgot one thing YOU ARE NOT AN AVERAGE RIDER the time you are running we have some turbo bikes around here that barely get those numbers
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