Old Guy
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posted May 11, 2007 01:10 PM
Requesting "Experience"with Tsukigi and Brocks with Hindle can
Did a search and found a little info.
Figure on going with Brocks Maxton package W/ smeg or Hindle.
Or.....,
The Tsukigi from Ryan and shop the pcIII, speedo healer etc.
A little input about my goals for you;
Commute daily with my 06 (at 4,800 miles now, add 250 miles min. weekly)
Going to Bubs in Sept. at the Salt Flats with goal of breaking 200
No drag experience but will do some this summer to "prep" for flats.
Semi retired so the only reason for this thread is to get best value for my $$$
Otherwise would just buy Brocks and top of line stuff, but still need leathers, sprockets extra rear wheel & drag rubber stands, dyno time etc. etc.
Will be asking you folks a zillion (gabillion?) questions later on other things seemings how this IS the place for people who race! Or at least go FRICKIN FAST!!!!!
Thanks for all your input, Da Old Guy
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Living the good life...,
On a XZ !!!!!
Tsukigi stainless full system
pcIII w/custom map
NO freakin flies!!
GP suspension forks
Penske rear shock
Rich's custom seat
And a whole bunch of other stuff.
97 zx6r full race bike with all the
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smokinzx14
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posted May 11, 2007 02:50 PM
Brocks Smeg and Maxton map ...Best money you will ever spend....We allready know they will go 200 in the standing mile...
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lietoome
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posted May 11, 2007 04:40 PM
Brock's.
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old guy
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posted May 11, 2007 04:46 PM
Yea I almost ordered at his site tonight.
Want to talk with them about ceramic coating the header before they ship it.
The only reason for the Tsukigi consideration is cost and the heavier gauge pipe for street use in Rainy old Wa. state. My stock headers are looking like cheap auto pipes from a winter of weather. I ride unless its freezing.
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Living the good life...,
On a XZ !!!!!
Tsukigi stainless full system
pcIII w/custom map
NO freakin flies!!
GP suspension forks
Penske rear shock
Rich's custom seat
And a whole bunch of other stuff.
97 zx6r full race bike with all the
good stuff
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bigdtd
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posted May 12, 2007 05:39 AM
 Edited By: bigdtd on 12 May 2007 06:45
all of us old guys like to go fast
with brock's you get the r&d and maps support second to none which is priceless
you would have a hard time finding a tuner that would get your bike running better than one of brock's supplied setups, he gives you choices for street ,track, maxton, you name it , no one else comes close, also its good when your bike runs better than all the rest and if it didn't you would get a personal email from brock to find out why
no i'm not a paid sponsor
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2006 Black ZX-14,6 inches over,16/42, flies out,BMC Street Filter,Brock's Street Meg,Brock's Radial Mount Strap,PClll with Race map,Dynojet LCD w/Techmount, ZX-14 fender eliminator,Pilot Power2CTs,Speedohealer,Pazzo Levers,Cox Radiator Guard, Garmin Nuvi 265WT
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dubious
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posted May 12, 2007 07:55 AM
Brocks 
More time spent developing maps than any other ...
He dedicated the entire year of 2006 to zx-14 development and solely focused on the zx14...
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old guy
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posted May 12, 2007 04:41 PM
Edited By: old guy on 12 May 2007 17:44
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Brocks
More time spent developing maps than any other ...
He dedicated the entire year of 2006 to zx-14 development and solely focused on the zx14...
Nuff said. That IS priceless to a Old Guy like Me who will drag alittle, ride alot and try for 200.
Will order from him Monday.
A funny thing riding today;
I was thinking of gearing down for the street (1 tooth less counter sprocket) until I got a lttle (just alittle really) Ham fisted exiting a low speed corner. The way this thing scooted out of it (been flyless a week) made Me realize I best leave it alone!!! Especially after I get Brocks packaged dialed in!!
Thanks for the replies gentlemen. I respect each of your experience with the ZX and your opinions.
It WAS a land slide vote eh...,
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Living the good life...,
On a XZ !!!!!
Tsukigi stainless full system
pcIII w/custom map
NO freakin flies!!
GP suspension forks
Penske rear shock
Rich's custom seat
And a whole bunch of other stuff.
97 zx6r full race bike with all the
good stuff
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bigdtd
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posted May 12, 2007 04:44 PM
it will wake it up for sure, turned 2nd gear back into first, power gain and weight loss is good
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dubious
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posted May 12, 2007 05:07 PM
You pay for what you get, and Brock is standup, knowledgeable and even.... reachable!
Wow imagine that.. in this day an age "personable" !
Many of us have had conversations on the phone with him, and he has always made time to assist the customer.
I remember him getting quite upset because we (me) were demanding "no fly maps" and he was still developing maps for the fly's in... LOL he pulled through though and emailed me one of the first no fly maps 2 days later to try out that he had for the street and SMEG.
I live 3000 miles away and he worked OT to get the maps out, and I know he tests them on the street too.
He was going to memphis for the drags and would be out of the shop for a week, asked me to tell him what i thought and test it out for few days!
Wow ... that is service .
Once you have the pipe fly's out and map, and get a little used to it I recommend trying a 16 tooth...
You'll fall in love with the bike all over again...
Some guys run 16/43 ... I found my tire was scrubbing and spinning in all 3 bottom gears all the time with 16/41 the tire looked like an orange peel,.... NO BURNOUTS!
So 16/41 was good enough for me... it was barely hooking!
Guys on 16/43 love the wheelies though I'm told!
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raptor14
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posted May 12, 2007 05:14 PM
Ditto for Brock's. Good system and great customer support. I wrote the instructions for installing Brocks Gen III StreetSmart but they are applicable to most aftermarket systems. Brock has now posted them on his website. They cover fairing removal, etc. so whatever you get, perhaps they will be useful.
http://www.brockracing.com/Instructions/BBP-ZX14Gen3Part2.pdf
http://www.brockracing.com/Instructions/BBP-ZX14Gen3Part2.pdf
I have to admit the Gen III StreetSmart is actually a little louder than I like, but the performance is excellent and I'm very satisfied with the system. Go for the ceramic coating just for the thermal barrier benefit, if nothing else.
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old guy
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posted May 13, 2007 03:29 AM
Hmmm, if you say the StreetSmart is a little too loud I' afraid to think what the smeg is!!
Iwas debating between the two. I noticed Brock doesnt suggest the carbon fiber can for repeated high speed runs. ( durabilty issues?) Will ask when ordering along eith a few other questions.
Nice job on the instructions. I read thru them to get a peek at what it entails.
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Living the good life...,
On a XZ !!!!!
Tsukigi stainless full system
pcIII w/custom map
NO freakin flies!!
GP suspension forks
Penske rear shock
Rich's custom seat
And a whole bunch of other stuff.
97 zx6r full race bike with all the
good stuff
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bigdtd
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posted May 13, 2007 04:56 AM
steve's carbon looks great and he does not take it easy, the street smart is plenty quiet, but it sounds great. if you want a deeper more manacing sound its the smeg
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F_Sik
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posted May 15, 2007 07:51 AM
i think the both are great pipes /u can not go wrong
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