nemesis
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posted March 21, 2007 05:39 AM
Zx14,hayabusa or gsxr 1000 ???
So this is my first post,since im not made out of money,i can only purchase one of these bikes brand new,and i love them all for different reasons,im trying to pick between a zx14,a hayabusa and the new gsxr1000...
Id settle it by taking them for a test ride but i they obviously wont let me since they dont give me my full licence till early next year...
I love the zx14 cuz its the latest an greatest in technology,( you want to get what you pay for )
I like the hayabusa because il never forget the slogan on the billboard when i was like 16 "fastest predator on earth" and i always said i want that bike,i have a soft spot for it so to speak...
.But its getting abit old,been the same since 99 pretty much.
And the gsxr well,in my opinion out of the 3,its the best looking,and for the money its state of the art etc...
I dont know what to get,and i dont want to regret it either,long distance riding comfort isnt a priority anymore since my lady fell of a cliff an died,all i know whatever im getting it will be black.
I dont want to start another flame thread,since ive been lurking on here for a while now,an just signed up,but i want the fastest bike in a straight line.
The gsxr should be the fastest since its got the best power to wieght ratio (from memory)
But hard to put the power down due to the shorter wheelbase....
I also like the busa cuz of the aftermarket support,i live in australia and from what
i can tell we havent gone as far as playing with zx14's as yous have..
Dont burn me,its my 1st post fellas haha, I just need help in making a decision before i splash the cash...
  
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posted March 21, 2007 05:49 AM
Id settle it by taking them for a test ride but i they obviously wont let me since they dont give me my full licence till early next year...
I THINK YOU SHOULD STAY AWAY FROM ALL 3 sonny
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nemesis
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posted March 21, 2007 05:53 AM
Doesnt mean that i havent bothered to get a licence,that i dont know how to ride...
Im just telling yous how it is,cuz i was waiting for someone to say go test ride em.
And im telling yous why i cant!
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posted March 21, 2007 06:03 AM
Id settle it by taking them for a test ride but i they obviously wont let me since they dont give me my full licence till early next year.
my lady fell of a cliff an died
i want the fastest bike in a straight line
I SAY NO MORE
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nemesis
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posted March 21, 2007 06:12 AM
I said the lady thing cuz its funny man,where has peoples humour gone !
Im 23.
And ive been racing cars since god knows when,but bikes are abit new to me,this isnt my first bike,but my forte's cars.
The feeling a bike gives you though is something else.
I say straight line,cuz like some of the others here,il be hitting the quarter mile with it and i prefer to modify a factory bike that is more suited to the quarter mile,nothing too wild,just respectable,like smokeys bike,is that such a bad thing,god!
I try be nice, and you have to be all negative and act like some hero,as i ask for advice,not a mother figure.
Who says that,"stay away from all 3 sonny"
You dont know me or my riding experience.
You sound like some redneck sheriff.
I want your professional opinion,is it that hard!?
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Xtremespeed
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posted March 21, 2007 06:49 AM
Unless you have a lot of experience, I wouldn't buy any oft them.
I know it's not what you want to hear, but most people on here would
rather be honest with you and maybe save your life.
None of these bikes are recommended for someone who doesn't have much
experience. they will get you in lot of trouble before you realize it.
If you have a lot of experience then buy the ZX-14. Probably won't get any other answer here.
This is the ZX-14 forum. (-:
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nemesis
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posted March 21, 2007 06:53 AM
Thanks xtremespeed,yeh i know its a zx14 forum,but i like this forum more than all the others so i thought why not 
I love hayabusas dont get me wrong,but on the busa forums they cant be told a better bike is capable of existing haha!
0h well,what do you do!
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flyboy
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posted March 21, 2007 07:30 AM
I talked to a local salesman recently who sold the Busa and the 14. I asked him how he qualifies someone before selling them either bike. He told me about a 19 year old that came in the store several months earlier and wanted to buy a Busa. After some lengthy discussion on riding experience the salesman shook his head and said "I'm sorry". The kid left the store in a huff.
Several weeks later there was a big bike crash not a quarter mile from the dealership. The biker had hit a divider in the highway going super fast and died immediately. Well, we know who that driver was-- the same kid that he had turned down weeks earlier. He had gone to another town and bought a Busa from another dealership.
Nemesis I'd recommend something smaller and work your way up.
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posted March 21, 2007 07:33 AM
Busa old news and it will take a 1397 motor to keep up with the zx14 ..The 07 Gixer is a killer for sure ...But still doesn't have the torq of the zx14 .....I would pick as followed zx14 , 07 1000 gixer , Busa .... 
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Tool man
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posted March 21, 2007 07:56 AM
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I talked to a local salesman recently who sold the Busa and the 14. I asked him how he qualifies someone before selling them either bike. He told me about a 19 year old that came in the store several months earlier and wanted to buy a Busa. After some lengthy discussion on riding experience the salesman shook his head and said "I'm sorry". The kid left the store in a huff.
Several weeks later there was a big bike crash not a quarter mile from the dealership. The biker had hit a divider in the highway going super fast and died immediately. Well, we know who that driver was-- the same kid that he had turned down weeks earlier. He had gone to another town and bought a Busa from another dealership.
Nemesis I'd recommend something smaller and work your way up.
Ya what he said !!!!
Nemesis.... Could you PLEASE detail in depth your riding experiance. Everyone here is concerned as to why you want the fastest of the fast as a bike for yourself.
All three are EXPERT ONLY bikes. This is not to put you down!! Riding is a skill that most all people can learn, but it takes seat time and learning in a classroom or through your more experianced peers.
IF you take all the right steps you can have YEARS of riding fun, instead of a few seconds of final life in review. 
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posted March 21, 2007 08:08 AM
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I said the lady thing cuz its funny man,where has peoples humour gone !
Im 23.
And ive been racing cars since god knows when,but bikes are abit new to me,this isnt my first bike,but my forte's cars.
The feeling a bike gives you though is something else.
I say straight line,cuz like some of the others here,il be hitting the quarter mile with it and i prefer to modify a factory bike that is more suited to the quarter mile,nothing too wild,just respectable,like smokeys bike,is that such a bad thing,god!
I try be nice, and you have to be all negative and act like some hero,as i ask for advice,not a mother figure.
Who says that,"stay away from all 3 sonny"
You dont know me or my riding experience.
You sound like some redneck sheriff.
I want your professional opinion,is it that hard!?
Ya no... I missed this before I wrote my responce. Buy the 14. and a big insurance life insurance policy, PM me I will give you all my info so you can make me the beneficiary
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1badzx12r
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posted March 21, 2007 08:40 AM
Ya no... I missed this before I wrote my responce. Buy the 14. and a big insurance life insurance policy, PM me I will give you all my info so you can make me the beneficiary
BUT I FOUND HIM 1ST
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mike1024
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posted March 21, 2007 09:29 AM
TRUST US! WE DONT WANT YOU TO GET A BIKE BIGGER THAN YOUR SKILL! WE DO NOT WANT YOU TO DIE DUDE! WE KNOW! WE HAVE SEEN IT SO MUCH!!! We dont say the things we do cause were assholes, but because Ive seen too much guts, spilled blood, protruding broken hips and ribs, road rash, impalements, curbings, etc, in person.
Ever see the look in someone's eyes when you see their spilled guts, knowing they're going to die?
Please think about it.
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posted March 21, 2007 09:36 AM
 Edited By: stevewfl on 21 Mar 2007 10:36
Either the gixxer 1000 or the 1400 can get you killed. Neither bike is purchased due to their claim to safety faim. Maybe one will be 1/20th second faster than the other in getting one killed....
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posted March 21, 2007 09:42 AM
I'm sure some will strongly disagree, but the 14 can be a great bike for beginners if you have some sense and keep the rpm's low. The flies work great as training wheels. The problem is that most males under 25 can't comprehend the fact that they can die, and therefore can't resist the urge to go too fast. It's not that the bike is too hard to ride, it's just too tempting to drive WAY past your skill level. Keep it under 6k rpm's for 6 months and you SHOULD be fine.
Other than that, if you want to drag race the 14 is a no brainer. Stay away from the 1000 if you plan on doing any long rides, over 1 hr. It would be very uncomfortable. Just don't expect to be able to throw around the 14 in turns like you would a 1000, but for it's size the 14 handles great.
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posted March 21, 2007 09:55 AM
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I'm sure some will strongly disagree, but the 14 can be a great bike for beginners if you have some sense and keep the rpm's low.
I agree 100%.
As long as the wrist action is right, the bike is mild at low RPM, especially with the flies in. People say "start on a 600". Well look at the death stats on a Honda CBR600RR or F4, the 600 is as deadly as any bike.
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posted March 21, 2007 10:24 AM
Well heres my 02. My Bud rides a Busa, and we switch rides often. Busa is a great bike, but we both agree the 14 feels about 200 pounds lighter, has better brakes and ergos. For example we are leaving Louisiana tomorrow for Phonix, and are trailering. Reason is he wont ride the Busa on an extended trip because of the ergos. If you use some common sense I dont see why you shouldnt go for the 14, it is the all around do everything bike. The 1000 is to limited for my taste, and why buy old tech in the Busa. As for starting small, I call BS on that, even a Honda Rebel will kill you if you ride stupid......TB
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posted March 21, 2007 10:32 AM
Edited By: 1badzx12r on 21 Mar 2007 11:36
if you want speed
http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2006/04/20/bmw-v12-powered-motorcycle/
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Tool man
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posted March 21, 2007 10:53 AM
Just the fact that the question is asked, puts doubt in the minds that already know.
I did not have to ask " what bike is best?"
I already knew my requirements and skills.
So... I bought the bike that I wanted.
Happily ever after
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posted March 21, 2007 10:54 AM
Really two different styles of bikes. The GSXR 1000 is light and you can find a healthy aftermarket of parts for it. Not the best setup for dragracing but despite the naysayers it wll give a Zx-14/Busa fits albeit it is a handfull except maybe the last 10-15 mph top end with the right rider.
The TQ of the 14 is so much betetr than a litre bike and pretty sure the 14 is more comfortable and better platform for dragracing top end stuff. The aftermarket is coming around for the 14 but Suzuki almost always has the best selection/following.
Rumors forever now a new busa will be out early release this summer but I heard that last year too.
I'm sure one of them gives you that special feeling when you see it on showroom floor thats the one i would buy all are good and fast albeit the busa design is old but no doubt they are no slugs and still cleaning up on the tracks
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posted March 21, 2007 12:02 PM
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Well heres my 02. My Bud rides a Busa, and we switch rides often. Busa is a great bike, but we both agree the 14 feels about 200 pounds lighter, has better brakes and ergos. For example we are leaving Louisiana tomorrow for Phonix, and are trailering. Reason is he wont ride the Busa on an extended trip because of the ergos. If you use some common sense I dont see why you shouldnt go for the 14, it is the all around do everything bike.
+1
I switch back and forth from a busa too, and I agree with you
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Tool man
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posted March 21, 2007 12:12 PM
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Well heres my 02. My Bud rides a Busa, and we switch rides often. Busa is a great bike, but we both agree the 14 feels about 200 pounds lighter, has better brakes and ergos. For example we are leaving Louisiana tomorrow for Phonix, and are trailering. Reason is he wont ride the Busa on an extended trip because of the ergos. If you use some common sense I dont see why you shouldnt go for the 14, it is the all around do everything bike.
+1
I switch back and forth from a busa too, and I agree with you
Is that like being a crossdresser :d
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1badzx12r
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posted March 21, 2007 12:13 PM
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I switch back and forth from a busa too, and I agree with you
BUT DOES THE SEAT HUMP HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH YOU FEELING SORE
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posted March 21, 2007 01:28 PM
The 14 and the Busa are torque monsters and they both bite fucking hard when you twist the throttle. The Gixxer is a sick fast liter bike but is more tame by comparison to the other 2 as it has the power but doesn't deliver it hard at low speeds . As a 1st bike, I suggest you buy a 14 or a Busa, especially a Busa, as it's the most ferocious of all the bikes because all the TQ is completely unmanaged, unlike the STOCK (flies in) 14. Low RPM TQ is the hardest thing to handle on any bike, especially when you talk about 14's and Busa's. Removing the flies on the 14 nets even greater TQ numbers than the 14. Even with the flies in on the 14, the bike rockets at 6000 RPM like a jet engine...as compared to the 1000's where you literally have to wind 'em up to make em go fast (and they are very, very quick in the upper RPM ranges). Just my .02 worth. Ride safe whatever you decide. Don't mind 1BAD; he does this to everyone (but he's ok)...and I've been known here to be much worse too. Just ask around.:d
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posted March 21, 2007 03:19 PM
Sorry,
But, I agree with this post. I have a friend who is a salesman @ my local dealer, and he has many horror stories of inexperienced riders not even making it out of the parking lot or past the first light on the latest and greatest croch rocket they just had to have. Get some experience and take a class. My Son-in-law got around pretty good on his R6, but didn't even come close to passing the driving test.
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Unless you have a lot of experience, I wouldn't buy any oft them.
I know it's not what you want to hear, but most people on here would
rather be honest with you and maybe save your life.
None of these bikes are recommended for someone who doesn't have much
experience. they will get you in lot of trouble before you realize it.
If you have a lot of experience then buy the ZX-14. Probably won't get any other answer here.
This is the ZX-14 forum. (-:
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