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tonytooth

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posted March 20, 2007 07:18 PM

Edited By: tonytooth on 20 Mar 2007 20:20

New Power Commander LCD Unit

This sounds like a great unit. The cost is $300 MSRP. I really like the idea of being able to store multiple maps plus touch screen with a SD slot. Sounds Nice!

http://www.powercommander.com/powercommander_iii_usb/powercommander_LCD.aspx

The LCD Display connects to any Power Commander USB via a "quick disconnect" cable. The weatherproof design allows for the display to remain installed on the motorcycle. While connected, the unit will display all the available data from the Power Commander. When the optional Multi-Function hub is also installed data from the devices connected to it become available for viewing as well.

The onboard memory allows for the storage of multiple maps. Once stored, these maps can be sent to the Power Commander "on the fly". Additionally, maps can be custom adjusted using the controls on the display. The LCD Display has the ability to log the data being displayed for later analysis.

The LCD unit has an SD Memory card slot (memory sold separately) so that the amount of data storage for maps and logging can be increased at any time.

The LCD unit can be removed easily from the bike and programmed with desktop computer. Maps can be loaded, stored and the data viewed with the supplied software. As new functions, screen and features become available the unit can be upgraded by the user using the supplied USB cable and free downloads on the web site.

- Displays all Power Commander data "real-time"
- Allows storage & switching between multiple mpas
- Data logging capable
- "On screen" map adjustments
- User configurable screens
- USB programmable & upgradable
- Active matrix TFT LCD 240 x 320 16 bit color screen

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posted March 20, 2007 07:41 PM

Yup that is a very cool deal ........I want one !!! Sure would be easy to test maps and make changes on the fly .....
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kspz3

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posted March 20, 2007 07:53 PM

I have one installed with the new hub - plus an Innovate data LM1 w/X-16 wideband and acqusition unit setup installed....... I will be monitoring performance and tuning with the stuff this season....... KSP

tonytooth

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posted March 20, 2007 07:58 PM

Cool keep us posted on your findings.
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posted March 20, 2007 08:03 PM

does it have the capablity ofloggingA/F if you plug in an o2 sensor???? or would I have to buy a seperate Data Logger and If I have to buy a seperate data logger Does it have th3e ability to show A/Freadings on the readout

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posted March 21, 2007 09:35 PM

It will data log, as far as showing live A/F ratio, I'm not sure. My friend has one on his gixxer I'll ask him..

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posted March 21, 2007 09:37 PM

Tony lemme know if you purchase one, I wanna' see it~!
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tonytooth

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posted March 21, 2007 10:24 PM

Will do Steve.
If this thing monitors live A/F I will buy it now but I have my doubts on that. Please ask about that.
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posted March 21, 2007 11:18 PM

I am pretty sure you can hook a wideband 02 sensor to it and data log, but I dont know about real time display..

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posted March 23, 2007 02:11 PM

Does it allow you to change maps on the fly, say, by pressing the n20 button? Doesn't look like it....

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posted March 23, 2007 05:32 PM

Edited By: kspz3 on 23 Mar 2007 20:33

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Does it allow you to change maps on the fly, say, by pressing the n20 button? Doesn't look like it....

The hub will let you change maps on the fly - the lcd let's you store and download various maps plus provides a screen that you can see various data fields - including a gear selector, speed, manifold air pressure, throtle position, plus a 5 volt feed. the hub has a handlebar switch for on the fly map change. you can do allot more with the maps now that can support nitrous, including turning on a solinoid, trimming per gear, and trim per cylinder, etc. Check out the technical support documentation.
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posted March 23, 2007 05:35 PM

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It will data log, as far as showing live A/F ratio, I'm not sure. My friend has one on his gixxer I'll ask him..

It will show a 5 volt signal with .25 volt resolution - you will need to convert voltage to a/f. The recording is very basic - and hence the reason I bought the innovate logger also. I will have wideband data to the LCD in addition to a gauge. This will allow for casual logging and reading with the in depth data acquisition done on the innovate system and will require a PC to access and analyse.
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posted March 23, 2007 06:52 PM

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Does it allow you to change maps on the fly, say, by pressing the n20 button? Doesn't look like it....

yes you can change maps by just pressing a couple buttons..

shane661

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posted March 24, 2007 06:04 AM

Just to clarify my question:

When you are running at, say 9k rpm, and you spray the bike....

Can the unit be set up to trigger the map swap off of the nitrous button, and will it make the transition without a hiccup or stutter from the engine??

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posted March 24, 2007 10:13 AM

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Just to clarify my question:

When you are running at, say 9k rpm, and you spray the bike....

Can the unit be set up to trigger the map swap off of the nitrous button, and will it make the transition without a hiccup or stutter from the engine??

I believe that you can - although I haven't played with it yet. Here is the deal - If you look at the new multi-pirpose hub it has a button that will throw it to a new map (like a notrous map) on the fly. The new map can control a celinoid also through the hub that requires that you are at a minimum RPM and beyond a certain throttle position - for example 90%. - Finally - if you have an oxygen sensor in it can do a trim function - for example increasing fuel for a lean condition. So the controls are enhanced quite a bit - but it is hub that allows you to do all these things not the display. The power commander - with the new firmware holds two maps that can be changed on the fly.

The display has a port for a memory card that you can store as many maps as you would like. Then you can enter the menu by pushing buttons on the display and go to your list of maps and then download a new on into either map 1 or map two posisition (assuming that the two map option available. THis is not really a on the fly set-up unless you are unbelievably coordinated and can scroll through menus while you are moving - what this is good for is if you were changing fuels - for example going from pump gas to MR9 - or pulling a baffle at the track = then you could download a new map with a computer - very convienient. THe data monitori ng lets you record the display as it appeared during the logging so that you can watch a replay of the displayed speedometer, techometer, and 4 variables like throttle position, manifold air pressure, gear selector, duty cycle, or 5 volt feed. When I looked at the software it seemed rudementary although handy for after a pass at the track. You can also download but again my intial review this looked somewhat limited - and as I remember you dumped to a spreadsheet and the minimum interval option was maybe a second - although I would really need to check that point. What I wanted was some greater flexinbilty as I am preparing to run at Bonneville and Maxton and the altitude is very diffferant and therefore I wanted to be able to modify the tuning if needed. IThey are just completing the setup and I will be playing with the software soon. I will report back on my findings - One of the variables that I am hoping to monitor is the secondaries - If I can get that working we can get data that moves the conversation beyond hearsay and the I was looking at the throttle bodies while I turned the throttle perspective.
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posted March 24, 2007 10:19 AM

Edited By: shane661 on 24 Mar 2007 11:21

Sounds very promising, thanks for the info.

I am installing a new pcusb and ignition module this week, prior to Maxton. I bought them for the added features of rev-extend, and the quickshifter. These new products make it an even wiser investment!!

I am sure the software will mature in the near future...

One other thing...and I know it's a long shot....can these accessories trigger a shift light, with different shift-points in each gear?

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posted March 24, 2007 01:23 PM

got to get me one
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kspz3

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posted March 24, 2007 03:01 PM

quote:
Sounds very promising, thanks for the info.

I am installing a new pcusb and ignition module this week, prior to Maxton. I bought them for the added features of rev-extend, and the quickshifter. These new products make it an even wiser investment!!

I am sure the software will mature in the near future...

One other thing...and I know it's a long shot....can these accessories trigger a shift light, with different shift-points in each gear?

They can trigger a shift light - but I do not believe that they can do it to differant setting for each gear - as I said before - Power Commander programming is limited.

Just a follow-up. I went down and was working with my mechanic doing the install - I had made a mistake earlier stating that you could get manifold air pressure - the Map field in the power commander is for which of the two maps are running.

Finally - I would think long and hard before extending the rev limiter as that puts extreme stress on the engine - and by my calculation terminal velocity (highest possible speed for ZX14 power curve ) is somewhere between 10,200 and 10,400. For drag racing you might have some advantage winding it out - but this is the type of modification that make things go POP!
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