murlyn
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posted January 17, 2007 12:32 PM
NEW - ZX-14 Adjustable Ignition Rotor
Muzzys has just released an adjustable ignition rotor for the ZX-14.
Muzzys Adjustable Ignition Rotor
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smiddy1
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posted January 17, 2007 12:41 PM
Too bad they wont sell their plug and play nos or air shifter connections separate from their kits.
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posted January 17, 2007 05:14 PM
What does that have to do with the ignition rotor?
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ninja14
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posted January 17, 2007 05:48 PM
I did my own (free) ignition mod last year......took them long enough :-)
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posted January 17, 2007 07:42 PM
I'm sure they have a lot of irons in the fire.. You slot your pickup coil like we did on the 12R???
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smiddy1
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posted January 17, 2007 07:43 PM
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What does that have to do with the ignition rotor?
Absolutely nothing! Maybe I'm trying to give them, him(Rob Muzzy), a hint that some of us do not need his whole kit and should sell some of the components separately. Just like he has with the nos bracket, and air shifter bracket. We all don't want to go his way, and it be nice to have the parts he has developed in our own system layouts. What would it hurt? Just more money for him. As far as the rotor, I don't need it. I'll be going with the the more flexible dynojet unit or the Schnizt unit., as I'll only need to take out timing when on the nos. Now don't get me wrong it's a nice piece, as always. But the money he wouldn't get on this sale would be doubled on the sale of the plug and play nos and air shifter hook ups.
YO ROB, SELL THE PLUG AND PLAY UNITS IN YOUR NOS AND AIR SHIFTER KITS SEPARATELY, ALSO MAKE A FUEL PUMP LIKE YOU DID FOR THE 12. DOES IT NEED MORE THAN A DIFFERENT MOUNTING PLATE? HOLLA AT YA LATER.
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What did your post have to do with the rotor?
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BobC
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posted January 18, 2007 03:51 AM
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Too bad they wont sell their plug and play nos or air shifter connections separate from their kits.
Well Smiddy, that comment might be a little unfair. Last time I looked Mr. Muzzy was running a business not a charity.
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smiddy1
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posted January 18, 2007 10:53 AM
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Too bad they wont sell their plug and play nos or air shifter connections separate from their kits.
Well Smiddy, that comment might be a little unfair. Last time I looked Mr. Muzzy was running a business not a charity.
So what I said above would not be a good business practice? Please explain how it's not. How would anything I stated be a charity. He's already separated some parts off the kit.
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ninja14
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posted January 18, 2007 02:31 PM
The same reason I won't sell my turbo kit with everything but the turbo unit as someone asked me to. It is a package deal and the parts that are often asked to be left out make up a large part of the profits per sale. It would be like doing all the other stuff to create the kit for almost nothing. Also big companies order large batches of parts to make kits......don't want to sell 100 of a part and only 75 of the other........
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brent davis
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posted January 18, 2007 02:45 PM
So what has anyone gained by advancing timing on a stock engine ore perhaps like the free mod that ninja14 did over on the other site.
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posted January 18, 2007 09:37 PM
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So what has anyone gained by advancing timing on a stock engine
Thanks for keeping it on topic, I'm wondering the same
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ZXLNT
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posted January 18, 2007 09:40 PM
I haven't seen anything definitive 1 way or the other, but if it responds like the 12R did, and I suspect it will, it should give a decent gain..
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smiddy1
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posted January 18, 2007 10:42 PM
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The same reason I won't sell my turbo kit with everything but the turbo unit as someone asked me to. It is a package deal and the parts that are often asked to be left out make up a large part of the profits per sale. It would be like doing all the other stuff to create the kit for almost nothing. Also big companies order large batches of parts to make kits......don't want to sell 100 of a part and only 75 of the other........
But they already have. What's one more step?I'm talking about a wiring harness, not custom fabbed headers and intakes. They're still making money, and I do see what you're saying. I just thought more money was more money. It is what it is and it's his to do what he sees fit. How else would he know there was a demand if he wasn't told? Just like the fly's out map for his exhaust. Just because you don't need it doesn't give cause for you to knock it down. Things do change if brought to the light?
Sorry for the thread jack.
Wait a second, 1st and only post, Muzzy links, murlyn do you work with Muzzy???????????
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Brent Davis
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posted January 19, 2007 03:06 AM
LMAO.
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posted January 19, 2007 06:54 AM
Nope... Stay on topic ...
if you want to fight, take it to the Smack House.
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smiddy1
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posted January 19, 2007 12:47 PM
I don't want to fight with anyone. Just was trying to get a point of view out there.
And yes this was the wrong place to do it.
Nice piece.
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smiddy1
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posted January 19, 2007 12:57 PM
On topic, I would guess it would depend on what you wanted to do with the bike. If you wanted to run all motor it I see it being the most cost effective way of adjusting the timing for your tune. If you plan on nos I don't think it would be best because you would be running with an advance while on the nos, or you would run retard while off the nos. With a turbo, I don't know if you run retard all thru through the rpm and boost or not. I guess the advantages would depend on the type of tune.
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posted January 19, 2007 09:19 PM
If one wanted a smaller amount of timing advance or didn't want to spend all the money on the ignition module this would be a good piece to have. Not the best for Nitrous for sure, unless thats all you do. It has its place I believe..
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