heavenlyride
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posted December 04, 2006 07:37 PM
Why PC the fly out bike?
I pulled the flys yesterday. Not hard thanks to the boards feedback. I put the beast back togehter. Again not hard.
I then rode the beast. It pulled much harder and I saw no issues with the mapping. I hit it hard, very hard, but not for a long time. I rode up and down the road and a few twists but that was it.
Given the easy idle and power, why do I need the PC and Map. It seems it worked fine when I put the thing together.
I am using the stock pipes.
I have ordered from the guys in New York, very nice and helpful on the by and by, but do I need it?
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Bently
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posted December 04, 2006 07:40 PM
SOme say you do some say you don't, I rode mine for 500 miles with the flies out no pc and Mine seems fine. I have a pc now cause i went with brocks exhaust.
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Tool man
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posted December 04, 2006 07:42 PM
Readhttp://www.bikeland.org/board/viewthread.php?FID=27&TID=24810&set_time=
Bike runs much too lean at 3500, A/F ratio's 17 to 1 Not good for pistons uless you want to see thru them :P
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Bently
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posted December 04, 2006 07:48 PM
Other peiople have dynoed with flies out and no pc and did not see that lean of a condition.
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Tool man
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posted December 04, 2006 08:01 PM
Ok I had not heard that, is it the pipe and fly combo that makes it run so lean ??
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heavenlyride
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posted December 04, 2006 08:21 PM
Mine is stock and it was faster than stink. I loved it.
I asked on the site and bought it to be safe. But no intent to remove the pipes.
How do you get the PC in that tight spot??
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BlackMagic14
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posted December 04, 2006 11:32 PM
I put my PC under the windshield total 15 minute install time
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BobC
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posted December 05, 2006 02:18 AM
If there's any doubt about running too lean at lower rev's with flies out, take it to your nearest dyno' and get them to do a run with the gas probe in the exhaust. Shouldn't cost much and you can then make a decision about PC or no PC. A lot cheaper than a holed piston.
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the blue mule
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posted December 05, 2006 04:14 AM
well do what you want, but my bike had a lean condition down low that was terrible for my approximate 900-1000ft above sea level elavation. We had to add 30% more fuel down low.
there was a terrible spike at around 3000k rpm? it's been awhile since I had it done
perhaps you should call a reputalbe shop and ask!!!
smitherscustons.com is where mine was done.
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bigdtd
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posted December 05, 2006 11:31 AM
"there was a terrible spike at around 3000k rpm? it's been awhile since I had it done"
3000k rpm man you are spinnin hard 
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countersteer
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posted December 05, 2006 03:44 PM
quote:
Readhttp://www.bikeland.org/board/viewthread.php?FID=27&TID=24810&set_time=
Bike runs much too lean at 3500, A/F ratio's 17 to 1 Not good for pistons uless you want to see thru them :P
+1
but i think you should keep running it hard without a map- i wanna see what happens.
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heavenlyride
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posted December 05, 2006 08:16 PM
Damn countersteer, that is funny. I have the pc coming. I plan to run it. It just did not fell odd at all when I ran it.
I got the map that was done by the paint named company out of NY. Not expensive for the significantly faster bike.
I was just curious about it.
Still the notion of keeping it running to see what happens is funny.
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dubious
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posted December 06, 2006 10:43 AM
Its OK to name the company!
Was it Cycle Paint and Metal?
he's a site sponsor see...
http://www.bikeland.org/sponsors.php
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nightmare
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posted December 06, 2006 11:06 AM
there is a guy telling me that I need to remove the flies and use a tre at the same time.
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countersteer
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posted December 06, 2006 02:02 PM
http://www.bikeland.org/board/viewthread.php?FID=27&TID=27089
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heavenlyride
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posted December 07, 2006 06:48 PM
YES IT WAS CYCLE PAINT AND METAL!!
I just could not recall the name. i had a very good exerience with them! high rec. for enthusists like them!!
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heavenlyride
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posted December 11, 2006 05:10 PM
I saw the map from Cycle paint and metal. It does have a richening in the lower range. Good job on their part. It does take some out at the higher levels.
I need to wait to get the bike loaded with the Map. Damn rain. 70 degree weather and wet. What a dragggg.
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blackbullet76
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posted December 29, 2006 05:30 AM
So even with a commander installed with premade map, it will still run lean with the flys out?
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phytrax
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posted December 29, 2006 09:38 AM
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there is a guy telling me that I need to remove the flies and use a tre at the same time.
He doesn't know what he's talking about, just pull the flies and get a PC, you'll have an amazing transformation for $300.
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blackbullet76
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posted December 29, 2006 04:01 PM
 Edited By: blackbullet76 on 29 Dec 2006 16:02
Will any map thats made for just slip-ons with flys out be ok for me to run? D&D don't have a map yet.
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bigdtd
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posted December 29, 2006 05:39 PM
sounds like a good probability that a slip on map would work
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blackbullet76
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posted December 29, 2006 06:12 PM
So I wouldn't need one that has the flys out?
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dcm 21
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posted December 29, 2006 07:03 PM
I just manually turned up the fuel to full on the low and mid ranges..it runs great!
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fastestbusaaround
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posted December 29, 2006 07:44 PM
BB76...do you have a Brock setup? If you do, you can get a flyless map from him...
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blackbullet76
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posted December 29, 2006 07:51 PM
dcm 21, you turned them all the way up? What's your milage like at cruising speeds, say like on the interstate.
fastestbusaaround, nope, just D&D slip-ons. Still have factory header.
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