rodanst6
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posted November 16, 2006 04:40 PM
wheels
I know this has been discussed, but I am looking for a set of black 5 spoke rims for the 14....so far I cannot find any. Does anyone have a web page or info on where I can locate these. Can't afford CF so they would have to be forged probably. Sorry for the repeat.
  
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dubious
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posted November 16, 2006 05:01 PM
dymag makes em in magnesium.
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The Blue Mule
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posted November 16, 2006 05:13 PM
I don't know what your budget is but a set of BST carbon fibers are on my list next summer
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posted November 16, 2006 05:19 PM
nice, but why on a drag bike.
you could get WAYYYY more strt line perf for the dollar by spending that money on HP.
the lightwt wheels will be most noticable in the twisty's.
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posted November 16, 2006 05:21 PM
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nice, but why on a drag bike.
you could get WAYYYY more strt line perf for the dollar by spending that money on HP.
the lightwt wheels will be most noticable in the twisty's.
2 tenths baby!!! when you get to this level of speed its hard to come by some e.t. and mph. I didn't want to do a thing to the motor(cams, porting, etc...)
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posted November 16, 2006 05:31 PM
I find it hard to beleive you'll gain 2 /10s 
cool if it did though! 
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stephane
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posted November 16, 2006 05:40 PM
Check out this link lots of info on different wheels
http://www.sportrider.com/features/146_0402_motorcycle_wheel_comparison/index.html
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posted November 16, 2006 06:02 PM
good link...
now I'm even less decisive ....
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posted November 16, 2006 07:54 PM
3 spoke here.
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Phytrax
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posted November 17, 2006 06:00 AM
Mach III looks sweet but I don't know on a red bike.
Wheels are rotating weight, makes a big diff compared to say, exhaust weight. That's gotta help out the 1/4 quite a bit, should help braking a lot too.
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rodanst6
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posted November 17, 2006 07:13 AM
Thanks for the info, looks like alot of choices. After reading the article, I'm going to try to get more info on specific road tests on the ZX14. Sounds like the wheels can be a major improvement but they can also cause some new issues. If I'm going to invest 2-3 thousand in wheels I want to make the right decision the first time. Again thank you to all.
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posted November 17, 2006 09:50 AM
Phytrax, I am sure they can do just about any color combination you want..
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posted November 17, 2006 10:45 AM
Guess you're right. Anyone have numbers on some of these wheels and carbon wheels compared to the stock 14 wheels.
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posted November 17, 2006 11:13 AM
I have alot of #'s wrote down at home. The stock wheels sre so heavy just about any aftermarket wheel will be lighter. I love the looks of those Mach 3's...i called about them and he told me next month they will have all the fitment sizes for the 14....but look to pay 2800 for a set. He said ball park weight was 14 for the front 16 for the back.
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posted November 17, 2006 11:14 AM
and you can get them in different colors.....
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posted November 17, 2006 12:52 PM
If the 10 wheels would fit the 14, it would be sweet...they just about weigh less than the tires.
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posted November 17, 2006 03:34 PM
Too many spokes...
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posted November 18, 2006 01:36 AM
 Edited By: The Blue MUle on 18 Nov 2006 01:37
http://www.blackstonetek.com/popups/wheel.htm#
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posted November 18, 2006 09:20 AM
I dont mean to be a kill joy about aftermarket lighter rims but they are not worth it to me unless your in the Grudge Race scene or Racing with the Pros in MiRock and Prostar...
$2000-3000 for a 10lb. weight loss, fuck that...I would rather lose 10lbs. of my own weight, way cheaper!!!
But if ya like the way they look and the improved handling, then go for it...
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posted November 18, 2006 10:56 AM
losing ten pounds of your own weight wouldnt get you the same gains though. The chain isnt trying to spin you around like it is the wheels. You not only get the benefit of 10lbs less weight (almost one and a half horsepower) but you also get the benefit of less mass to have to try and rotate...which is another big savings in acceleration. Also, the more that the aftermarket wheel keeps its weight near the center or hub and away from the outside the more the gain...so dont just look at total wheel weight also look at where the wheel has the weight. Also if you remove ten pounds from the bikes wheels...thats weight that can be added back to the bike in a more needed spot, without penalizing you. In other words. Put ten lbs less weight in wheels on...then add a 10lb block of weight to the front fork bottoms and now you get the benefit of faster accelerating wheels (quicker times) with no added weight to your original starting weight ....and you now have weight where it can be used, low on the bike, on the front end, to help in keeping the front end down for quicker 60 ft times which once again translate into ......Quicker total times. Also there is the benefit of looks and a custom appearance, and less cleaning time (for most aftermarket wheels). Less spokes means less time cleaning wheels and more time riding...and lets face it thats reason enough right there LOL. Just my $.02 
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posted November 18, 2006 12:33 PM
Good post...Excellent  worth 
Your 100% right, but still not worth it to me since I just bracket race...
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posted November 18, 2006 05:37 PM
They are expensive, but the point is once you get to a certain point, lighter wheels is the best choice for performance. Almost everyone has a budget of some sort. I'm sure almost everyone in the forum has been told by a family member or coworker that "$200 is stupid, the bike is fast enough already." So what's the point. Unless you got some better wheels for a better price "They cost to much," just isn't a valid argument by itself. Nothing we do to our bikes is worth the money for 90% of us if you're talking about return on your investment. It's just fun.
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posted November 18, 2006 07:22 PM
quote:
losing ten pounds of your own weight wouldnt get you the same gains though. The chain isnt trying to spin you around like it is the wheels. You not only get the benefit of 10lbs less weight (almost one and a half horsepower) but you also get the benefit of less mass to have to try and rotate...which is another big savings in acceleration. Also, the more that the aftermarket wheel keeps its weight near the center or hub and away from the outside the more the gain...so dont just look at total wheel weight also look at where the wheel has the weight. Also if you remove ten pounds from the bikes wheels...thats weight that can be added back to the bike in a more needed spot, without penalizing you. In other words. Put ten lbs less weight in wheels on...then add a 10lb block of weight to the front fork bottoms and now you get the benefit of faster accelerating wheels (quicker times) with no added weight to your original starting weight ....and you now have weight where it can be used, low on the bike, on the front end, to help in keeping the front end down for quicker 60 ft times which once again translate into ......Quicker total times. Also there is the benefit of looks and a custom appearance, and less cleaning time (for most aftermarket wheels). Less spokes means less time cleaning wheels and more time riding...and lets face it thats reason enough right there LOL. Just my $.02
this has been hashed over before...
yes, lighter wheels equal less rotational mass, less gyro effect, better suspension compliance
In fact depending on the moment of inertia...
... the weight lost will be much more effective the further away from the fulcrum, in this example the axle!
10 lbs off the outer edge of the rim and tire is equal to about 3 -4 times that amount removed from the frame, your person or other non rotational mass.
However, $3800 will get you cams, pistons , rods, and nitrous...
about 220 RWHP , and another 40 on the gas !
For outright drag racing, $$ on motor will be more effective, unless your already there!
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posted November 19, 2006 05:30 AM
$3800.00 yup...that sure brings on some other alternatives...
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