surfinlate
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posted October 30, 2006 03:28 PM
manual cam chain tensioner
Installed the manual cam chain tensioner from A.P.E. on the 14 today and the low rpm knocking noises that I mentioned a while back have stopped. Also good is that there is no start up clatter anymore cuz the slippers are snug all the time now..well worth the price
  
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ninja14
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posted October 30, 2006 04:23 PM
I was planning on getting one too. I have not had the cold stat-up clatter for a long time.......I'm at 8800 miles and I think it last made noise at a fe w thousand.............?
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fastestbusaaround
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posted October 30, 2006 05:19 PM
Mine does it every time at 9K miles now -- since about 3K
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SoCal ZX-14 Rider
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posted October 30, 2006 05:58 PM
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I was planning on getting one too. I have not had the cold stat-up clatter for a long time.......I'm at 8800 miles and I think it last made noise at a fe w thousand.............?
same here.
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INTIMIDA2OR
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posted October 30, 2006 06:19 PM
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I was planning on getting one too. I have not had the cold stat-up clatter for a long time.......I'm at 8800 miles and I think it last made noise at a fe w thousand.............?
same here.
Ditto !
Mine stopped at my last oil change at 4555 on the clock and i'm almost at 6000 now.
My dad's blue 14 still rattles but has 1/4 the milege i have .
So ape makes a manual tensioner now huh?
Cool!
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Flame On
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posted October 30, 2006 06:48 PM
Stock cam chain tensioners on the14 do they have a spring that gets week after lots of use?
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CrotchRocket
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posted October 30, 2006 07:06 PM
Do yourself a favor and put the OEM tensioner back on!!!
Have heard and seen alot of bikes break the cam chain from manual adjusters being too tight...
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Bently
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posted October 30, 2006 07:10 PM
+1, you have to keep a very close eye on manual tensioners. My rattle went away as soon as I switched to mobil 1 synthetic.
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smokinZX14
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posted October 30, 2006 07:18 PM
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+1, you have to keep a very close eye on manual tensioners. My rattle went away as soon as I switched to mobil 1 synthetic.
Brent what Mobil one are you using?? there are two different 5w30 mobil one oils Both syn type ... Lee...
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surfinlate
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posted October 30, 2006 08:38 PM
how about if they aren't too tight?
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zxbob
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posted October 30, 2006 09:03 PM
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how about if they aren't too tight?
You'll smoke the guide ......
But I beleive in the manuel tensioner, and its no big
deal to adjust.
Bob
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surfinlate
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posted October 30, 2006 09:36 PM
cool thx Bob
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ninja14
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posted October 31, 2006 01:20 AM
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Stock cam chain tensioners on the14 do they have a spring that gets week after lots of use?
Tension is maintaned by engine oil pressure......not a spring.........
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Bently
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posted October 31, 2006 03:09 AM
I will have to look today smokin, but I buy the 5 qt jug and believe it's the grey cap.
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Flame On
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posted October 31, 2006 03:50 AM
I will just use good oil hate to give them a reson to void my warranty . APE makes great products would go with it works great on a old bike I have.
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dubious
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posted October 31, 2006 09:52 AM
Was gonna say, better check your tension every couple thousand miles... if it goes loose, the chain can jump and drive the valves into the pistons....
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BrooklynNYZX12
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posted October 31, 2006 05:41 PM
Too many horror stories around manual tensioners,ask 100 guys get 100 different opinions on how to adjust them.Can't justify using one with a stock chain.Stay with the stocker.
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chez
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posted November 01, 2006 03:41 PM
Converted my old 1000 to manual and worked just fine. These auto tensioners are just a convenience for those who don't want to do any work on their bikes but beware after they wear a little......Manual is they way to go...
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WARBIRD
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posted November 01, 2006 04:46 PM
Brought my Busa home in the pickup.........rolled it in the garage and installed the APE manual cam chain adjuster. The early Busa's had cam chain adjuster problems and I wasn't taking any chances. They make a good, reliable adjuster. If you guys are running 10/30 or 5/30 weights it's gonna rattle at idle. The 15/50 Mobil 1 works real well and is VERY good protection under real hot or high stress conditions like top end runs. (very stable) Should help keep it quieter at idle.............
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INTIMIDA2OR
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posted November 01, 2006 09:59 PM
As long as you adjust the manual tensioner so no play in the crank is noticed there should be no problems.
Now if you preload the chain after crank play has been removed then .. well 
But like chez says:
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These auto tensioners are just a convenience for those who don't want to do any work on their bikes but beware after they wear a little......Manual is they way to go...
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