dubious
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posted October 05, 2006 02:14 PM
Dzus 1/4 turn fastners... your experience?
Thinkin of makin the plastics easier and quicker to remove.
How do the backing plate or "nut" plates install in place of the rubber well nuts?
Feasable ?
worth the change?
what about the stock fasteners that htred into frame and brackets etc?
  
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TeamSpeed
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posted October 05, 2006 02:20 PM
 Edited By: TeamSpeed on 5 Oct 2006 15:20
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iflyphi
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posted October 05, 2006 02:21 PM
Dub, I think it would be a major PITA. Compared to how many times you take off the plastic, I think it would be much more work to put the Dzuz fasteners on. I had them on my Dragbike years ago. The backing plates are held on my pop rivets. You put the backing plate on the plastic, drill two holes, and pop rivet the backing plate into place.
For somebody like me, who's always having to take the plastic off, because I forgot something, it's a must, but I don't think you would need it. My 2c.
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posted October 05, 2006 03:45 PM
There was a guy that actually retrofitted his 12 with Dzus (it was quite awhile ago that I remember reading the thread) and the way I remember it was quite an undertaking (read PITA).
That being said, I absolutely love the Dzus system on my R1 and really think ALL manufacturers should get their act together and spend the couple of extra dollars it would take to build a bike with them right out of the gate. 
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swft
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posted October 05, 2006 03:58 PM
Yep
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ninja14
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posted October 05, 2006 04:52 PM
Too much work.............out planes are covered with them, but designed that way from the start.
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dubious
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posted October 05, 2006 07:19 PM
Edited By: dubious on 5 Oct 2006 20:22
yup,
Actually I have been under the hood quite a few times...
and intend to be under it quite a bit more in the future....
My new toy ..... will be here end of next week!
the lift 
not the bike:P
Lookin at the 14, which is all rubber well nuts, or threaded brackets and frame mounts only half could feasably be changed....
Not really worth it then....
Might do the fairing lowers and thats it.
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BobC
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posted October 06, 2006 12:04 AM
OK for a drag or race bike where you are frequently removing the panels. For top speed events, they are not aerodynamic !
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Stalwart
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posted October 06, 2006 06:06 AM
Dub, you simply won't believe how your new "toy" changes your attitude toward servicing a bike. You'll probably even use it when you do your detailing. At the price you got it . . . well, that's just fuckin' OUTSTANDING! :BIGTHUMB
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dubious
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posted October 06, 2006 06:38 AM
Thanks Stal.
Yup, I hate getting bent over as much as being bent over !
LOL
Cleaning, service, maint , builds....
Thinkin of doing some work on the side .
I wanna buy a tire changer next!
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GUNNER
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posted October 06, 2006 07:14 AM
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OK for a drag or race bike where you are frequently removing the panels. For top speed events, they are not aerodynamic !
They make several types of these fasteners. I spent several years working in a racecar fab shop and have worked with just about all the types made. Like Blitz posted IF the panels were designed from the beginning with the proper step formed on the rear panel than they fit flush and all is well. BUT if the panel wasn't figured for them up front they will look bad when you're finished. If you'll notice most race cars are a little ratty looking once you're really up close and looking hard at them.. Racebikes also don't have the fit and finish we expect from our street bike.
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flatoutbu
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posted October 06, 2006 07:20 AM
Is anybody else having problems with the screws stripping out in the frame? I take my body panels off alot and half the screws I had to re-tap because there stripped. Also the fiber glass seat from catalyst composits uses 2 screws that hold part of your tail section on...the stock screws are alittle too short and strip really easy.
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Stalwart
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posted October 06, 2006 08:09 AM
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Thinkin of doing some work on the side .
I wanna buy a tire changer next!
I have too much work to do on my own stuff to take any outside work but a tire changer and a good computer balancer would be slick. I've been tempted at times but I don't think I can justify the money or the space required. A CNC mill is the next thing on the list for me, I could make parts that I now have to purchase.
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dubious
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posted October 06, 2006 08:28 AM
Edited By: dubious on 6 Oct 2006 09:29
The service in my area sucks, parts people don't know products or catalogs, and gouging is unreal, orders in bulk only, and people wait an extra week for shit, because local dealer puts orders in 1 a week, to save on shipping costs..
Money is not too much a deal for peole here... but patience is hard to come by.
Basically I think I could provide a good service to select few in my area.. friends and high performance crowd, get deals on parts for myself ,and make some money on the side.
Stalwart...your toys are beyond my $ means.
CNC would be awesome!
Flatoutbu...
yep, 1st time I pulled the plastics I noticed the screws were stupid tight, and threads needed to be cleaned up.
I tapped, and use anti seize.. just a teeny dab, to prevent the dissimilar metals,,, aluminum frame and steel bolts from galling.
1St post I made upon ownership of the bike... back in May.
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