posted September 17, 2006 04:20 PM
Edited By: fish_antlers on 17 Sep 2006 17:22
CR.. you didnt read the whole thread... I dont shifted AS I WAS BRAKING.
Quoting myself:
quote: I slam the bike into 1st gear and lay on the brakes...
... You can do both, ya know!
____________ What business is it of yours where I'm from, Friendo?
Down shifting into 1st. gear is a waste of time when you should be on the front brakes looking for an out !!!...Not to mention dangerous, since your back tire is locked up fish tailing...What the hell, you been hanging out with the Harley guys???...They do stupid shit like that!!!
I'm surprised at you Fish...Dont let me hear about this Harley guy type of riding again!!!
8 grand in 1st would definitely get you to where you want to go, but applying that much torque to the rear wheel while it's locked up from downshifting would be a too much to manage all at once. I could only imagine what would happen. Tire is locked-then 8 grand twist of the wrist.
See, just 1 idiot and all the crap you have to deal with???
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posted September 17, 2006 04:24 PM
BTW... this is one of the first things they teach you in rider training...
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posted September 17, 2006 04:26 PM
seriously? You've never been aquianted with the concept of accelerating away from a hazard instead of braking?
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posted September 17, 2006 04:31 PM
Of course...Thought we were talking about downthifting to 1st gear while on the highway???
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posted September 17, 2006 04:37 PM
yeah..... why not.. 1st gear's pretty fat on the 14... good to about 65/70mph if I can guess correctly... I slowed down to about 45mph... well within the range of 1st gear... 1st is even fatter on my 10R.... heck... if it was a different bike or a faster speed, then the topic would read that I geared down to (insert gear here)...
so your point is?
____________ What business is it of yours where I'm from, Friendo?
posted September 17, 2006 06:08 PM
ugh, i don't have time to list all the holes in your argument today. remind me in a few days fish.
and yes, i fully intend to take a training course, and have wanted to for ages. remember i was talking about it just a month or so ago? preaching to the choir boy.
posted September 17, 2006 06:49 PM
Edited By: dubious on 17 Sep 2006 19:57
9 out of 10 times i am travelling faster than the other traffic, not stupidly faster, but on the highway to work average speed is between 110 and 130 km/h, and I usally cruise around 150-160.
I have been cut off and pulled into or squeezed numerous times, and everytime it happens, I have accellerated by them , either to the far edge of my lane or beyond.
Point is if they pullinto me while even with their bumper and I'm already travelling subsatantially faster than they, I can accellerate by quicker than braking and dropping back behind them, and by accellerating past the asshole, I don't have to worry about the vehicles behind me running me over because my bike will out brake them, even if they are able to react fast enough,
My motto has always been stay ahead, and away from the cages, and travel fast enough to get away, but not so fast not to be able to stop.
I have less concern for the 2 vehicles in front of me that I can see, watch and anticipate, the ones beside and behind me are hard to anticipate and see.
Therefor keep them behind you! Stay ahead!
Fish, a megaphone would help tremendously.
I used to get cut off, squeezed, or left handed at intersections almost daily with the stock pipes.
Now even if they can't see me , they can hear me and since the pipe, I have been cut off less in 3 months than i was in the first 3 weeks with the stock exhaust.
debate all you all like...
nobody will change my opinion on this matter!
quote:and yes, i fully intend to take a training course, and have wanted to for ages. remember i was talking about it just a month or so ago? preaching to the choir boy.
EXACTLY.
refer to this thread once you've taken some rider training.
____________ What business is it of yours where I'm from, Friendo?
posted September 17, 2006 06:54 PM
Edited By: fastestbusaaround on 17 Sep 2006 20:02
quote:ON the freeway some shitface in a BMW X5 decides to cut me off... I stay behind him for a mile or so, then pull into the right lane to pass him... he cuts into my lane right infront of me (gee.. couldnt see that coming)... I slam the bike into 1st gear and lay on the brakes... mismatch the shift by a few grand... on my 10R in this panic situation the bike would've adapted for me.. absorbing my error.... on the 14 it locked the rear wheel up for a wee while... Slid it around for a bit, then got everything back in synch and off I went...
yes... eventually he exited and I did give him the salute
Uhhhhh yer 10 ain't got no slipper clutch dude...how exactly would it have adapted any better than the 14? I've locked my 10's tire from hard unmatched downshifts more than once.
I agree 100% with the dowshifting...in any type of traffic/evasive manouver, you'd surely want to be in the lowest gear posible to take advantage of the acceleration and engine braking capabilities.
Ball bearings work great too...if you can get to 'em quickly enough...:P
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quote:9 out of 10 times i am travelling faster than the other traffic, not stupidly faster, but on the highway to work average speed is between 110 and 130 km/h, and I usally cruise around 150-160.
I have been cut off and pulled into or squeezed numerous times, and everytime it happens, I have accellerated by them , either to the far edge of my lane or beyond.
Point is if they pullinto me while even with their bumper and I'm already travelling subsatantially faster than they, I can accellerate by quicker than braking and dropping back behind them, and by accellerating past the asshole, I don't have to worry about the vehicles behind me running me over because my bike will out brake them, even if they are able to react fast enough,
My motto has always been stay ahead, and away from the cages, and travel fast enough to get away, but not so fast not to be able to stop.
I have less concern for the 2 vehicles in front of me that I can see, watch and anticipate, the ones beside and behind me are hard to anticipate and see.
Therefor keep them behind you! Stay ahead!
Fish, a megaphone would help tremendously.
I used to get cut off, squeezed, or left handed at intersections almost daily with the stock pipes.
Now even if they can't see me , they can hear me and since the pipe, I have been cut off less in 3 months than i was in the first 3 weeks with the stock exhaust.
debate all you all like...
nobody will change my opinion on this matter!
Well written +1
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quote:
I'd seriously recommend taking some of your hard earned money and pay for a rider training course... it could save your life and hopefully prevent you from making uneducated comments like the one in this topic.
I'd get my money back if I were you. Your defensive driving class obviously didn't teach you to watch out and stay away from situations like this. The BMW didn't just cut you off once...he cut you off twice. You know the saying: "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."
I put 45k miles on my 12Rs in the first 3 years down here in Southern California. I think I have 3 stories of someone cutting me off in that timeframe. All during instances of splitting lanes during rush hour traffic. Come down here and ride everyday for a few years. You might learn a different type of defensive driving that can't be taught from some bullshit class that obviously isn't working for you.
posted September 18, 2006 04:31 PM
Freek - if you are going to take a course what are you waiting for?
Fish_Antlers to hold your hand and walk you to school?
posted September 18, 2006 06:41 PM
well he'll have to make due, cause his hands aint big enough to hold anything else (and no, he does not have small hands).
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posted September 17, 2006 04:20 PM
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