iflyphi
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posted September 08, 2006 10:36 AM
Muzzy CO2 airshifter pics
Finished, off to the track!!!
  
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CrotchRocket
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posted September 08, 2006 11:04 AM
Whats the wheelbase now ???
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flatoutbu
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posted September 08, 2006 11:58 AM
The oniy problem I had this this kind of set-up was the line running from the valve to the cylinder got hot and started to melt. The line never pop'd but ,it got twisted and melted.
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iflyphi
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posted September 08, 2006 12:01 PM
I'll keep an eye on the line tonight. 6" over stock on the wheelbase right now.
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flatoutbu
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posted September 08, 2006 12:09 PM
I put my valve right on the aircylinder. It works great that way and it's alot faster shifting. I can send the pics to somebody if they want to post them.
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smokinZX14
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posted September 08, 2006 03:39 PM
Looks ok ...Did Muzzy give you a deal ???? If he didn't give you a deal take them damn stickers off ... No free adds on my motorcycle !!!!!
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dubious
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posted September 08, 2006 03:41 PM
youl need longer chain guard to be legal.....
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iflyphi
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posted September 09, 2006 06:04 AM
Not worried about being legal at this point. Eventually will get a trac dynamics swingarm.
Smokin, no deal from Rob, but he was nice enough to send his mechanic over to help me out.
BTW, airshifter didn't work last night right off the trailer. Something either came unplugged, or the solenoid died. The solenoid isn't passing air to the ram, and yes I have plenty of air.
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Brent Davis
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posted September 09, 2006 08:27 AM
What is the advantage of getting a full swingarm over the roaring toyz extensions? I understand that it alleviates the chance of the extension kit breaking or falling off but have those been succesful for full drag racing? I ask because I bought the roaringtoyz swing arm extensions because of you iflyhi........LOL.......not to blame you but I did what you did.
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iflyphi
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posted September 09, 2006 11:42 AM
I want to go further back eventually, and also want a NOS bottle bracket welded to the swingarm, with a longer chain guard. I could do all that on a stock swingarm, but why mess up the stock one. Besides, what's another $1400.
If/when I go with NOS, or turbo, I want to be around 68 to 70 inches, and I'm not sure if I can go that far back with the toyz. Plus, IF I start making serious HP, the stock swingarm isn't strong enough. Some have reported that under very hard launches the swingarm is twisting. Interestingly, the extenstions are the strong point there.
Air shifter fixed. A wire connector had come unplugged, and to get to it I had to pull of some plastic and raise up the tank. I replugged it, and this time I taped the connectors together, and re-routed the wires.
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flatoutbu
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posted September 11, 2006 04:29 AM
So what did you think of the shifter? I dont think I could ride my bike without a airshifter...it made me lazy!! lol
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iflyphi
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posted September 11, 2006 08:30 AM
Dunno yet. Wire came loose at the track so I couldn't use it. Will try to go too testicals and tune tomorrow, but this being Louisiana it will probably rain. I used an airshifter on my old pro-street bike, with an autometer proshift control set to 11.5K. I loved it. It never missed a shift, and I didn't even have to hit the button.
Got another autometer, just gotta figure out where to get an rpm signal from, and which wire to tap into to make it shift. But that's another project for when I off again.
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flatoutbu
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posted September 11, 2006 09:13 AM
yea once i get past the 330 i'm just staring at the tach trying to bang it at 11
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iflyphi
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posted September 11, 2006 09:29 AM
Yea, same here. Sometimes I notice that I'm driting close to the wall, usually just catch it in my perephereal vision and have to correct. It's nice having an autoshifter, you can look around, and not worry about shifting. It's a must have for bracket racing as you can watch the guy your racing, and watch his hands to see if he's letting off.
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flatoutbu
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posted September 11, 2006 09:50 AM
I was thinking of finding the signal wire for the OE shift light and tappin into that...like a ghetto autoshifter...just put a toggle on there when i'm not using it.
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iflyphi
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posted September 11, 2006 01:27 PM
Somebody somewhere told me that signal was a canbus signal. I was also told the grey wire with the blue stripe going into the ECU give you an rpm signal that is readable. Used to be you just tapped one of the coils and that was it.
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iflyphi
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posted September 11, 2006 01:27 PM
One more thing, there's only one wire for that light, so if your launch light goes on, your bike shifts.
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halvefast
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posted September 11, 2006 01:54 PM
Just remember to turn off the lauch light,
it will shift the bike and bend shift forks just sitting there on the starting line <(:~(
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CrotchRocket
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posted September 11, 2006 04:34 PM
Hey iflyphi, you know where I would put that bottle???
I would drill 2 holes in the swingarm before the rear wheel and thread it, then put a bottle mount in there...That's where alot of guys are putting their bottles for the 14...At 62inch wheel base a 2lb. bottle with mount fits with room!!!
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flatoutbu
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posted September 11, 2006 06:00 PM
+1 on CR's ideal
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iflyphi
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posted September 12, 2006 05:59 AM
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Hey iflyphi, you know where I would put that bottle???
I would drill 2 holes in the swingarm before the rear wheel and thread it, then put a bottle mount in there...That's where alot of guys are putting their bottles for the 14...At 62inch wheel base a 2lb. bottle with mount fits with room!!!
That's probably what I'm gonna end up doing with the NOS. I'll leave the other bottle where it is. Was just gonna explore other options first.
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iflyphi
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posted September 22, 2006 09:58 AM
Bad news. Went to the drags on Friday, and I tested the airshifter on the stand before I made a pass, and the air solonoid was not releasing the air after the upshift. It would shift one, sometimes two times, then jam the shifter in the up positions. I would have to turn the power off on the shifter to get it to release.
Thought maybe if I ran it down the track it would work better under a heavy load. Nope. Same thing, after the first shift, it locked the shifter in the up position. Once I turned the shifter off, it released the air, and the shifter returned to normal position.
Does anybody else here use this Muzzy airshifter??
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dougmeyer
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posted September 22, 2006 11:01 AM
I rode the crap out of it when I tested the 14. Must be a bad solenoid or relay. It happens. Vendor parts sometimes have unforseen defects. I'm sure they'll make it right.
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nightmare
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posted September 22, 2006 12:41 PM
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I'll keep an eye on the line tonight. 6" over stock on the wheelbase right now.
how about a pic of the entire bike?
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iflyphi
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posted September 22, 2006 01:09 PM
I know they will make it right, but come on. First the digi-kill dies, then this. I've about had it with this thing. It has yet to work right on the track even one freaking time!!!!!
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