Norcal14
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posted August 22, 2006 03:36 PM
Map for Muzzy & No Flies
Don't know if I'm repeating an old topic, but what map are people running for the Muzzy full system and the flies out. If I could get ahold of such a map, that would be great.
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TJ
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posted August 22, 2006 06:24 PM
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Don't know if I'm repeating an old topic, but what map are people running for the Muzzy full system and the flies out. If I could get ahold of such a map, that would be great.
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ZXLNT
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posted August 22, 2006 08:12 PM
Email Muzzy they have been fairly good on sending maps lately...
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TJ
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posted August 22, 2006 08:39 PM
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Email Muzzy they have been fairly good on sending maps lately...
I don't think they have a "no flies" map.
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ZXLNT
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posted August 22, 2006 09:03 PM
Email and find out. I thought I read on another board they did..
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3Boysand3Bikes
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posted August 22, 2006 09:41 PM
I spoke to Dave and Kurt at MUZZY and they don't have a map for no flies... and they probably won't I was told. I also talked to Nick at SCHNITZ and they don't feel that the flies removal is good for the street so they also don't have it.. they suggested getting the TRE... I don't understand how the bike isn't funning lean with the TRE if you get more power down low... I know that the Flies open sooner with the TRE, but you still have to supply gas...
I ran the SCHNITZ map for full Muzzy, (10,500rpm- they also have a 13,500rpm map) I then added fuel down low on my own. I could look up the numbers and post them, if someone wanted to try it. I know that mine runs perfect now. You would have to edit the PC map with a lap top on the bike... but it is pretty easy. I know that it is not perfect.... but the dyno at this time for me is too far away and I really have no time to do it. I am hopeing over the winter to get a map from All Pro Motorsports in Waukesha... they have done a lot of Busas and I would assume will have quite a few 14s since they are close to Milwaukee. They are good. If I do get that one I will share it with whoever is interested. zx1kr has his own map of the Brock I think with no flies... maybe he wouldhelp out if he could make a few dollars, since he is in business. Let me know. I live in Wisconsin and don't know how the numbers work in your areas....
For a fee you also may consider calling Brock... all we have heard is great things from him. I know that his pipe gets more HP so it may be a bit rich... Not sure, but he could really help us all out. I realize that we didn't buy his pipe... and I understand him not wanting to give out maps... but maybe if we give him some money. The ONLY reason that I didn't get the Brock was due to money. The MUZZY for me was $660 or so... and that was with shipping. I am real happy with it.. but I don't want to slap Brock in the face either. He seems like a class act. I realize I may tick off some people... but I am a pretty straight forward honest guy... so there it is. Maybe if Rob reads this thread he will consider putting together a map?? No flies is the way to go.... There is no doubt.
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BlackMagic14
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posted August 22, 2006 09:44 PM
The same remapping is required with the TRE as is required with taking the flies out the reason they are recommending the TRE is so they can sell it to you... Brock provides maps for no flies
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BlackMagic14
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posted August 22, 2006 09:48 PM
Brock is pretty adamant about not sharing maps and I agree that is one of his main motivations to get customers to buy his product instead of the competition... and by the way I rescently had my bike tuned for my nitrous setuo and the tuner said Brocks map was PERFECT he couldnt find one place to improve it
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htosado
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posted August 22, 2006 10:36 PM
Not that this is the answer by any means, but I have custom slip-ons with no flies. I was running really lean and had no map. I factored the flies and slip-ons would equal full system exhaust. I tried several maps, and finally came to a Boz Bros map that works pretty damn good. Boz Bros cut exhaust is like running straight pipes, so your FULL system with no flies, would probably be comperable ( I'd rather run a bit rich than lean). then I tinkered by hand adjustments to refine it a bit. I got pretty much close to great (until my dyno tune).
Just a thought until you get a correct map this might work.
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