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posted August 15, 2006 07:57 AM        
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The back cop told me he was yelling at me through his PA but I wasn't responding all the way off the FWY so they were going to knock me off my bike or worse.


OK, so I'm just wondering how many deaf bikers get shot by the cops in LA.

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posted August 15, 2006 08:03 AM        
Good point.
I wear a Shoie $450 model with chin screen and nose guard installed.
When me and my son ride together we can't hear each other at stop lights unless we practically click helmets and scream at each other.
Our hand signals suck too. lol
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posted August 15, 2006 08:24 AM        Edited By: worm~hole on 15 Aug 2006 11:08
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What you have to understand is that in this line of work one mistake in judgment can cost us our lives.



What you also have to understand is that mistakes in cops judgement often cost civilians their lives....




...what you have to understand is that MOST cops hope to NOT to ever be the cause of an innocent person's death no matter if the mistake was made by the person, the cop, or both...

...what you have to understand is that your scenerio RARELY happens when compared to the thousands of contacts conducted by cops per day across the U.S. and is very traumatic for all people involved when it does...

...what you have to understand is that the death of a badguy is often if not ALWAYS the result of the badguy forcing the issue via his/her assaultive and violent resistance...

...what you have to understand is that unless you're a cop doing the job day and day out year after year, you'll never understand this...and please don't tell the good cops to get out if they can't handle it, make the split-second life or death decisions...just be greatful that the majority of cops are good people doing an often difficult job...
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posted August 15, 2006 08:27 AM        
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posted August 15, 2006 08:30 AM        
...what swft said
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posted August 15, 2006 08:59 AM        Edited By: worm~hole on 15 Aug 2006 10:02
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I have a hard time with police. I truly appreciate the role that they play and how difficult it must be. When I am pulled over I am always polite and do the "yes sir, no sir" and as cooperative as I can be. However, it seems every time that I have been pulled over there is plenty of screaming and yelling from the guy.

True story: I was assisting a friend of mine repair his Suzuki Bandit 400. He had let it sit for a couple of years and the carburetors were gummed up. The only way to get it to roll down the road was in 1st gear full throttle then it would spit and sputter and then suddenly jerk forward. Of course that was time to let off.

We pulled the carbureters, sprayed them out with Gumout, and would take it out for another ride to see if we got them cleaned out. After a couple of tries both my friend and I took it out for a spin and did roll-ons to see if the carbs were fueling correctly. No speeding was being done, and there were very few neighbors. If you have seen some of the towns in Maine you would know the meaning of sparse.

Last ride out, nearly dark the bike is running really well. I get pulled over by a "Road Warrior" cop with the Camaro with light bar. He is screaming and yelling that he is sick and tire of kids tearing up his street on bikes. I am 35 at the time with 2 kids of my own. I politely try to explain that we are not speeding, but instead repairing the bike, while I am locating my license in my wallet.

"Shut up! You were speeding!" I calmly explain that both my friend and I were riding to repair the bike and that I know for sure that I was not speeding. Of course I don't have the registration and inspection since it is my friend's bike. I could come up with my license and my insurance card. I explained that my friend would have the registration at his house and that we should drive 1/4 mile to go get it.

When I drove to my friend's house there he was half in the left lane about three feet from the back of the bike almost daring me to bolt. At this point I am disliking the guy so I figured 10 mph would be just about right. After pulling into my friend's yard, he tells me that he is really angry because he clocked me at 29 mph hour and he knows that I was speeding because his daughter lives on the road and said she saw us speeding. It was a 35 zone with a 50 mph zone just 1/2 mile down the road. I'm not sure where his daughter lived, but there is a chance I could have gotten up to 55 in the 50 zone. Keep in mind that this is a 400 bandit, not surprisingly quick.

He tells me that he has all night and will be giving me a ticket tonight even if he has to go back to my youth record. After yelling at me, my friend and his wife for 45 minutes in their yard he declares it to be my lucky night, no ticket because he just got an emergency call. I didn't feel so lucky.

For any cops out there on this site, what do you think I did wrong here to have to endure this? Is there any recourse by going to the police chief with a complaint, or would I be harassed if I did?


...coudnt even begin to guess what was in the cop's head that day or everyday which caused or causes him to effect law enforcement his way...we weren't there and we only have your side of the story (gotta be fair here)

...somebody obviously had a problem with you and your friend testing the bike on a public roadway and called the cops...at any rate, it looked like it sucked being you, your friend, and his wife that day even if all of what you could've been charged with were simple infractions in most states...

...citizens have the right to complain and file a righteous complaint....if it is indeed a righteous complaint...just hope that your local law enforcement agency has lawful complaint system in place...good luck...
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posted August 15, 2006 09:18 AM        
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It just takes one cranky cop to ruin the rep of the rest of the police force.

By likewise, you can say that about sportbike riders also.


...very fair observation ...
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posted August 15, 2006 09:20 AM        Edited By: worm~hole on 15 Aug 2006 10:21
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The back cop told me he was yelling at me through his PA but I wasn't responding all the way off the FWY so they were going to knock me off my bike or worse.


OK, so I'm just wondering how many deaf bikers get shot by the cops in LA.



...huh???...what???...talk s-l-o-w-e-r...
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posted August 15, 2006 09:23 AM        
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It seems the trend is:
Cops in cars may not like bikers but
cycle cops tend to understand us better.
Maybe.....................Just an opinion.


...I drive a cruiser only because I have to, but I understand most bikers and I like most bikers because I'm a biker....just an opnion
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posted August 15, 2006 09:24 AM        Edited By: worm~hole on 15 Aug 2006 10:25
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that is why I hate cops, they are jsut to power hungry. I was pulled over about 2 weeks ago by a supervisor and that just has it out for every bike, I was coasting to a stop light he alsmot hits me by coming in my lane and cutting me off so I lock up the brakes, he jumps outta his car and grabs me by the back o fmy shirt and rips me off my bike....I barely had time to put my kick stand down....pats me down, takes my key and tells me to walk it to the curb so I do and he writes me a ticket for my plate not being able to be visible......what a dushe.


JUST a FYI on how weak the justice system is if you go into court and ple no contest you get no points and ask for community service and no fine.....works every time and I do the "community service" for a buddy of mine. I study TV shows ya know!


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posted August 15, 2006 09:27 AM        
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I almost had a 1/2 a heart attack just reading about it!
Glad it worked out for you.
I almost did the same thing. I nearly always accelerate getting on the freeway (after all it's called the *acceleration lane* right?).
I started to nail it and caught just a glimpse of a Camaro with "extra lights" hiding behind another car (intentionaly or not) so I slowed and merged at the speed limit (60 mph).
As soon as he saw that I was doing the speed limit, he sped up to 80+ and I followed him at that speed at a safe distance for several miles.
WHEW!



...hey I know CPR...remember: we can pace you from the front as well....it's probably not wise to follow us at any speed at any visible distance, ok?
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posted August 15, 2006 09:28 AM        
Cycle cops are pretty cool most of the time, unless you are wreckless. Fast usually isn't a factor here. If you cause other cars harm while speeding, or pedestrians is when the cops hammer you.
So-cal : We will be filming on his helmet cam on the way to the rock store.
I had 5 bees land on my shirt at the all at once going 100+ on Kanan. My buddy got stung literally right between the eyes while riding.

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posted August 15, 2006 09:28 AM        
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Thanks.


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posted August 15, 2006 09:29 AM        Edited By: worm~hole on 15 Aug 2006 10:31
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I'm tired of getting hit by cigarette butts and nothing happens to these drivers - time for revenge!


...revenge is sweet ...uh...the alien is stuck to your face
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posted August 15, 2006 09:31 AM        
Thow ball bearings against the ground at speed in front of the car, it's like a shotgun to the radiator!!!!! Or toss one up over the shoulder and pop the windshield.
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posted August 15, 2006 09:38 AM        
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Jnybbad, yeah that kind of happend with a group I ride with. We were all out riding and stopped out in the country at a bridge to do some racing. Its out in the country with a good view of oncoming traffic. Anyway the Sheriff Department shows up because they had complaints about the motorcycles racing. ( I work in dispatch for the Sheriff and Police) NO racing for me.

Anyway the Deputy asks for everyones liscenses and one of the guys from out of town starts to get a tude and challenges the officer as to why he needs to show his DL when he wasn't actually riding when approached..

Anyway I knew the Deputy that showed up and he was cool about things. I walked over to the loudmouth and told him that if he keeps his mouth shut we would probably be let off with a verbal warning and no paper, but if he keeps running his mouth and we all get tickets, I'm gonna kick his ass. So officer friendly runs everyone (except me and cuts us all loose with just a verbal warning to take off and go race/ride someplace else. If your cool and polite with the police your gonna do better than getting an attitude, that will get you cuffed and stuffed quickly, maybe even a ride on the Tazer Pony....


...what xlnt said ....btw, thanks for time and effrots behind the Com...often times people forget a very important component in modern law enfocement....the majority of calls we go to come from the Com..."Dispatchers tell cops where to go!"
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posted August 15, 2006 09:39 AM        
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Thow ball bearings against the ground at speed in front of the car, it's like a shotgun to the radiator!!!!! Or toss one up over the shoulder and pop the windshield.


...not wise on a crowded road...take your chances if its only you and the other vehicle on the road...
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posted August 15, 2006 09:41 AM        
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Cycle cops are pretty cool most of the time, unless you are wreckless. Fast usually isn't a factor here. If you cause other cars harm while speeding, or pedestrians is when the cops hammer you.
So-cal : We will be filming on his helmet cam on the way to the rock store.
I had 5 bees land on my shirt at the all at once going 100+ on Kanan. My buddy got stung literally right between the eyes while riding.


...I had a wasp enter the sleeve of my leather jacket and tattoo my right wrist and forearm at 75mph...(this was during my pre-gaunlet glove days)
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posted August 15, 2006 10:07 AM        
I hate wasps!!!!!!!!!!!that sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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posted August 15, 2006 10:12 AM        
...wasps are our mortal enemies...how can something so little cause so much pain....
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posted August 15, 2006 10:50 AM        
Funny, that's what she said...
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posted August 15, 2006 10:53 AM        
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Cycle cops are pretty cool most of the time, unless you are wreckless. Fast usually isn't a factor here. If you cause other cars harm while speeding, or pedestrians is when the cops hammer you.
So-cal : We will be filming on his helmet cam on the way to the rock store.
I had 5 bees land on my shirt at the all at once going 100+ on Kanan. My buddy got stung literally right between the eyes while riding.


ya htosado, I had a bee hit me in the nose while we were riding away from the Rock store right before I put my visor down. I didn't want to stop because we were just entering those twisties going left away from the store. I just waited to see if I felt something crawling, I didn't so he must have died.

So whats with the bees up there anyway, down here at the beach - no bees - its a beautiful thing.

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posted August 15, 2006 10:59 AM        
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Funny, that's what she said...


...speaking from vivd experience, swft?
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posted August 15, 2006 11:00 AM        
...I'm such a naughty post-whore....spank meeeeee!!!!
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posted August 15, 2006 02:31 PM        
Worm -hole your profile says your from Soc-cal, where can I ask?

So-Cal, they are seasonal there from certain growth in the hills. They seem to be worse than ever now. I was wearing my bean-cap as usual, and took some abuse at speeds in excess of 140.
I saw a black zx14 there two weeks ago, but never met the rider. I wonder who it was.

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