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posted August 08, 2006 07:17 PM
runnin too rich
is there a way to run leaner w/o mapping or power commander?? stock modification?
  
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posted August 08, 2006 07:23 PM
check your oil level (curious)
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posted August 08, 2006 07:24 PM
Bike should not be running rich with no mods...you running stock?
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posted August 08, 2006 07:25 PM
 Edited By: fish_antlers on 8 Aug 2006 20:27
humour me... check your oil level... and also please check the little oil overflow/blowby bottle located on the left of your bike. Let us know if there's anything in it.
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posted August 09, 2006 05:07 AM
I presume the oil thing is something you, and/or others, have noted. I have modded mine, but my mpg is still well lower than I would have expected, especially when I'm just in cruise mode (Which I do regularly.). I geuss you'll let us know what's up, if it's substantiated...Meanwhile, I'll check my oil.
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posted August 09, 2006 08:01 AM
no cls.. I'm just asking a specific question for ny28av, and no one else...
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posted August 09, 2006 09:19 AM
quote:
I presume the oil thing is something you, and/or others, have noted. I have modded mine, but my mpg is still well lower than I would have expected, especially when I'm just in cruise mode (Which I do regularly.). I geuss you'll let us know what's up, if it's substantiated...Meanwhile, I'll check my oil.
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I get about 36 average crusing at 85 which seems to be optimum. My Busa got 40+...the 14 has improved abot 15% or so with time and the Hindle exhaust/PC3 and weight loss..(from the stock cans gone)
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ny28av
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posted August 09, 2006 12:06 PM
oil level is where it should be......... ??
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cls
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posted August 09, 2006 12:46 PM
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no cls.. I'm just asking a specific question for ny28av, and no one else...
Rog. A thousand pardons. Carry on.
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posted August 09, 2006 12:49 PM
Edited By: cls on 9 Aug 2006 13:50
quote:
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I presume the oil thing is something you, and/or others, have noted. I have modded mine, but my mpg is still well lower than I would have expected, especially when I'm just in cruise mode (Which I do regularly.). I geuss you'll let us know what's up, if it's substantiated...Meanwhile, I'll check my oil.
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I get about 36 average crusing at 85 which seems to be optimum. My Busa got 40+...the 14 has improved abot 15% or so with time and the Hindle exhaust/PC3 and weight loss..(from the stock cans gone)
Steady state cruising, I do about the same (35-36 mpg). Around town, even easy, I've dropped from about 35 or 36, to about 32. I'm wondering if it's rich in the low-end...I have the Gen. 3, PC, TRE, and flies out.
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posted August 09, 2006 01:23 PM
I average 35.8 mpg in all round riding.........have pipe, pc3, tre............
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posted August 09, 2006 01:47 PM
Edited By: fish_antlers on 9 Aug 2006 14:50
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oil level is where it should be......... ??
is that a statement or a question?
I'm specifically asking you exactly where in the sight glass your oil is... further... how many miles are on your bike, when was the last time you added oil to it and is there any oil in the blow-by collection bottle located on the bottom left of your bike. Help me help you by answering the questions clearly!
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posted August 09, 2006 04:09 PM
The 14's are way rich as delivered from the factory. Find a DJ250, throw the O2 sniffer down a pipe and see for yourself. Couple hp gain just from removing the air filter ( not a good idea ) on back to back runs.
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warbird
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posted August 09, 2006 04:26 PM
Here's a link to when Brock first picked up the 14. Most people already read this but some may have not. Right below the first dyno chart is where Brock talks about the bike's richness as delivered. My friend pulled his air filter right after the first few runs and picked up 4 hp. That's a WHOLE lot for just removing the filter. He was also 25 ft lbs down between his 4th gear and 5th gear runs. ( flies in place )
http://www.dragbike.com/dbnews/anmviewer.asp?a=2079&z=2
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warbird
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posted August 09, 2006 04:33 PM
This is the quote from Brock just below the first dyno chart in the article. And ya gotta love that smile in the picture just above that first chart........... 
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"Bike runs way rich from 8K up to limiter. I'm sure it killed power, but how much? May be a built in safety feature? I need a Power Commander in a BIG WAY! "
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posted August 09, 2006 09:11 PM
Edited By: dubious on 9 Aug 2006 22:13
I know where fish is going witht the oil level.
Funny thing is, no matter how hard i ring it out the little catch can is always dry!
I run my oil closer to full than lower limit!
I know my bike runs a little rich, the smeg has a nice ... not... brown black sooty tinge at the outlet of the can, after about 1000 km, if I don't wipe it down.
It runs well, so I'm not too concerned.
I thought it was said the stocker runs lean on bottom and quite rich up top...
that makes sense.. they were picking up3-5 rwhp stock, witht the air filter removed
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posted August 09, 2006 09:13 PM
Brock says soot is normal...has it on the Busa's he sets up too...anyway, he's getting his datalogger setup and will have some new maps for us!
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ny28av
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posted August 10, 2006 05:06 PM
hey fish,
the oil is at the top line, 3000 mi. just changed oil 200mi. ago(still full), however i did'nt check the "blow-by" yet. should i drain anything that might be in there?
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ny28av
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posted August 10, 2006 05:10 PM
oh wait, i take that back. the oil blowjob is dry.
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posted August 10, 2006 05:24 PM
thanks... disregard... my though doesnt apply then!
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