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flatoutbu


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posted August 08, 2006 10:22 AM        
i like running the co2 bottle but one freakin leak and your stuck unless you have another bottle. The regulator i got from mps was shit. My buddy has the same set up and he never had a problem with his. The screw stripped out to adjust the psi on the regulator...the o-rings leaked...just everything.
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iflyphi


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posted August 08, 2006 10:33 AM        
Don't have any of that on the muzzy that I can see. I'll let you know how well it works in a few weeks when I get a chance to put it all together.
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flatoutbu


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posted August 08, 2006 01:01 PM        
I should have waited for some of these parts to come out, but me being me, had to do it myself...lol Thats the only bad thing about working on something so new to the aftermarket. But hey, that how you learn right....."problem for one, benefit for all"!
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Bently


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posted August 08, 2006 01:15 PM        
I put my vote in for the Quickshifter, no extra weight from bottle, lines, bracket, etc. I used it at the track last weekend and it worked flawless with 65ms of kill time.
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iflyphi


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posted August 08, 2006 02:21 PM        
Yea, but you still have to use your foot to shift. I would prefer to just push a button and leave my feet dangling off the pegs until I feel like putting them up. To each his own.
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RICH CRAFT 1


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posted August 08, 2006 02:23 PM        
For those of you that have extended swing arms heres what i did for a temporary fix for the air bottle. I used two 3.5in hose clamps and clamped them around the wire bracket that holds the brake line. It goes about 3in vertical and i clamped it to it.

For those of you extended swing arm extentions you dont need a brake line kit just take to bolt out of the brake caliper and flip it over, bolt it back on and it works great. Im 7in over.
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Bently


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posted August 08, 2006 03:30 PM        
I get me feet up before the 1st gear change or you kill mph and et. So My feet are always there for the first shift.
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flatoutbu


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posted August 11, 2006 07:23 AM        
I tried leaving my feet out one time and it killed my mph.....i think it lost something like 5mph.
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CrotchRocket


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posted August 11, 2006 10:36 AM        
Sorry Bently and Bu, but thats BS...

I leave my right foot out to 3rd gear sometimes and have gone 153 in the 1/4 on my 12...I'm still footshifting and get my left foot up in time to shift into second...
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flatoutbu


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posted August 11, 2006 11:07 AM        
I made a pass with my legs hanging down and one where i normally tuck and it killed 5 mph on almost identical passes.Not BS when you have both legs hanging down using a airshifter....thats why prostock riders hang there legs out to help steer the bike....at least that's what i seen last time at a NHRA race. Could also have been because i was wearing a pair of baggy pants.
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Bently


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posted August 11, 2006 11:27 AM        
Gonna disagree with ya CrotchRocket I can very easy kill 3 to 4 mph by leaving my feet drag to long and not getting tucked tight.
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CrotchRocket


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posted August 11, 2006 11:45 AM        
How much do you guys weigh and I guess you wear Baggy Jeans???...Not saying that it does not kill 1mph but I say that you guys are just blaming the mph loss on not twisting the throttle enough as you let the clutch out...I do it myself !!!...I know its more my hand then my leaving the foot out !!!
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Bently


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posted August 11, 2006 01:57 PM        
No i defenitley lose mph if I leave my legs out to long, I wear full leathers. On my bike I can run 147 on a good run or a bad launch it don't care it still runs the mph. But If I have to leave my legs out to long its down 2 to 3 mph. It was the same on my busa and I had over 300 passes on that so I knew what worked and what did not work. Do you think it helps to take the mirrors off?
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CrotchRocket


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posted August 12, 2006 04:25 AM        
I hear guys say all the time that the mirrors make a big difference...How much of a difference does it really make is the question!!!
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flatoutbu


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posted August 13, 2006 11:55 AM        
yup baggy jeans....dont ask why i have almost 15,000 thousand wrapped up in a bike and no leathers...i know, i know, i know
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Bently


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posted August 13, 2006 12:16 PM        
get some leathers flatoutbu, it would suck sliding at 140 plus with jeans on.
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flatoutbu


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posted August 14, 2006 08:48 AM        
I need to..right now i use a Icon burner jacket with gloves and a AGV helmet...tracks not too strict on what we wear.
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Schwebel


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posted August 14, 2006 12:37 PM        
quote:
Question are both of you guys stretched? What mods have you done?
You are both crushing my times, I'm 220 in shorts total bike & rider weight 775,
completely stock, strapped and lowered, launching @ 4500, tire @ 28psi

My best 60ft. is 1.69,
330 is 4.374,
1/8 is 6.584 @ 112.42,
1/4 is 10.131 @ 139.36
94 degrees @ 3110DA

Are you just dropping the clutch and letting it spin a little?
I'm still beating every stk Busa I line-up with but they are having better 60's than me!
Advice or ideas appreciated.
Thanks!





I'm thinking you need get a better contact patch by saging your rear tire alittle more, 28psi might be a little high at 94 degrees.

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halvefast


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posted August 14, 2006 02:30 PM        
At 28psi I'm not getting any wheel spin.
However I am going to change the set-up just a little.
The front-end is only lowered 3/4", but the back-end is just rubbing the inner fender on launches.
I'll start by lowering the front another 1/2" to the spec Brock suggested of 1.25"
and raise the rear a little to acheive just a hair over the 2" min.
to see if this will help the attitude of the bike.

Just pulled the clutch to inspect after 54 runs, normal 3 spaced heat spots on the steels,
fibers still look good, removed the inner concave spring washer.
Soaked the plates for a couple hours in fresh oil and shimmed up the static spring pressure 0.090.
I will be back out trying to run a 9 something again on Friday night

Question has anyone confirmed that the ZX11 plates are the correct size and thickness yet?
The pads on these fibers have large gaps, plus I believe they could do with a little more oiling.
What oiling mods were do to the 12R hub to add more oil?
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smokinZX14


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posted August 14, 2006 04:04 PM        
quote:
At 28psi I'm not getting any wheel spin.
However I am going to change the set-up just a little.
The front-end is only lowered 3/4", but the back-end is just rubbing the inner fender on launches.
I'll start by lowering the front another 1/2" to the spec Brock suggested of 1.25"
and raise the rear a little to acheive just a hair over the 2" min.
to see if this will help the attitude of the bike.

Just pulled the clutch to inspect after 54 runs, normal 3 spaced heat spots on the steels,
fibers still look good, removed the inner concave spring washer.
Soaked the plates for a couple hours in fresh oil and shimmed up the static spring pressure 0.090.
I will be back out trying to run a 9 something again on Friday night

Question has anyone confirmed that the ZX11 plates are the correct size and thickness yet?
The pads on these fibers have large gaps, plus I believe they could do with a little more oiling.
What oiling mods were do to the 12R hub to add more oil?
halvefast I shimed mine 140 thou and it just killed my 60 footers.... I lost all the clutch feel that i had with stock springs .... I removed them and i'm going back wensday to give it a try again....halvefast you should before every right before your burn out do this > lean your bike way over to the right as far as you can without dropping it ...Pull the clutch in at the same time ....This will get oil up into the clutchs before you make a pass.....Good luck friday nite and let us know how you did.... Smokin...


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Bently


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posted August 14, 2006 05:23 PM        
Halvefast I would leave the rear lowered where you have it and add some preload to keep from rubbing. I had mine riased up in the middle hole and could not launch good at all, I'm in the lowest setting now and it helped a bunch
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halvefast


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posted August 14, 2006 07:05 PM        Edited By: halvefast on 14 Aug 2006 20:07
Smokin- I only went to 0.090 mainly because you had said it was too much @ 0.140
Also I do as you said (lean it to the right) in the burnout box before I heat the tire.
Another thought I have on bathing the clutch while leaning over,
is make sure it is in gear so the plates are turning seperately not rotating together.
(Know what I mean?) I think this one reason the clutch is living so well under me.

Bently- My thoughts are this, to change the attitude to be more leaned foward.
I have adjustable links so I can set it just perfect in height at the rear @ 2"
then use the preoad to stop the rubbing.

I see so many of you guys running in the 9's now I know it is in there I just have to find it!
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posted August 14, 2006 07:12 PM        
Man, it's great to see all you guys helping him out! Awesome!
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smokinZX14


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posted August 14, 2006 07:17 PM        
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Man, it's great to see all you guys helping him out! Awesome!
We need to help each other ... All zx14s should be and will be in the mid 9s if we help each other ...That way we never need to see a Busa tail light ...lol...
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Bently


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posted August 15, 2006 02:02 AM        
+1 I want to see evryone on a 14 in the nines as well, I want to see an 8
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