zx1kr
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posted June 06, 2006 08:39 PM
Did I mention that all tuning (if you have a modded PCIII usb in bike) will be on me! As in FREE!!! On the arm!!! No Pay for dyno time!!!!
Am I the only guy on Long Island that has 1 of these Bad Boys?
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dubious
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posted June 06, 2006 10:12 PM
Put yours on the dyno...
Come on man my bike is already tore down for pipe install!
I want to do this tomorrow am after the UPS dood shows!
Do it... ya won't hurt it!
I floggeed mine with 60-100 mph rollons in top gear for the first 80 miles then let her have it!
280 km/hr on the first ride!
Really heavy gusting crosswinds, and turnin into a pussy... or growing a brain with age, and loving my children is the only thing that kept me from flogging the fuck out of it on the first 300Km.
Tires are 50% $ for you too!
If it runs even slightly leaner than stock discontinue test and let us know what you find.
Wanna play with the big dogs, and promote the business... put it on the map...
Be a pioneer!
Give er.. you won't hurt the bike!
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fastestbusaaround
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posted June 07, 2006 03:15 AM
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sorry for not reading all of this, but when you re4moved the valves, did you leave the shaft in place so the computer still thought it was there (triggering no fault codes etc?) ..if you already said this.. sorry.. like I said I kinda skimmed to the end (hey! I'm lazy!)
Shaft is in...no need to remove as it won't impede air flow... 
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fastestbusaaround
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posted June 07, 2006 03:18 AM
I'd come down there, but it's going to rain this weekend and I ain't riding 350 miles in the rain...don't yet have my PC3/Pipe...
ZX1KR...it takes an hour to convert your bike and one simple run will tell you/us what you/we need to know...why not use your bike?
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posted June 07, 2006 04:40 AM
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sorry for not reading all of this, but when you re4moved the valves, did you leave the shaft in place so the computer still thought it was there (triggering no fault codes etc?) ..if you already said this.. sorry.. like I said I kinda skimmed to the end (hey! I'm lazy!)
geez fish put on your glasses, he has pics showing exactly what he did!
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swiftkart
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posted June 07, 2006 06:26 AM
Bottom line -- These bikes are your's, not mine. You're the ones who've paid for them, not me. So I guess I should just zip it shut and watch the show...
I see you finally got it right.
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posted June 07, 2006 09:49 AM
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Bottom line -- These bikes are your's, not mine. You're the ones who've paid for them, not me. So I guess I should just zip it shut and watch the show...
I see you finally got it right.
...says the lemming.
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zx1kr
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posted June 07, 2006 10:03 AM
I will use my bike, but I will not do this without a PCIII usb in line & I'am waiting for Dynojet to come out with a zx14 PC , not a modded zx10 PC. I know that there are a few of you that have this set-up in bike now & that would allow fuel adjustments.
If I pull my secondaries I want to be able to Correct the fuel problem & not have to reinstall the flaps if its overly lean. I'am sure u feel an improvement but, I have tuned some bikes w/ dry shot nitrous & they felt strong! Problem was the were runnin 18:1 A/F ratio on the juice & that's stupid lean. When I mapped them they made more HP & they made it CORRECTLY.
I have seen sparkplug electrodes burned clean off from lean conditions & worse. Not looking to subject my new 14 to that possibility.
I will tell you this. The moment I get a PCIIIusb installed the bike will be on the dyno with the flaps off & I will give all results. I'am on the fence as to which pipe I'm gonna go with muzzy, Brock or Akro when that is introduced. I'm currently leaning towards the Brocks.
One other thing, I have 700 miles on my 14 it's not going on the dyno until it gets 1000 miles on the ODO. With all the damn rain around here lately I dont know when I will get there.
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fastestbusaaround
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posted June 07, 2006 10:14 AM
Break it in on the Dyno! I don't blame you for being cautious...that's exactly why I've parked the 14 till we see some solid Dyno results, but I believe that they will show a reasonable A/F mixture as is now...
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zx1kr
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posted June 07, 2006 10:23 AM
When I break 1000 miles I will change out the oil & do a couple of pulls on dyno .At that point depending on the A/F in the lower RPMs (under 5K) I will then make a decision as to pulling the flaps. If it's lean with the flaps in I won't pull them w/o a PC to correct.
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aughtsix
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posted June 07, 2006 10:24 AM
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I will use my bike, but I will not do this without a PCIII usb in line & I'am waiting for Dynojet to come out with a zx14 PC , not a modded zx10 PC. I know that there are a few of you that have this set-up in bike now & that would allow fuel adjustments.
If I pull my secondaries I want to be able to Correct the fuel problem & not have to reinstall the flaps if its overly lean. I'am sure u feel an improvement but, I have tuned some bikes w/ dry shot nitrous & they felt strong! Problem was the were runnin 18:1 A/F ratio on the juice & that's stupid lean. When I mapped them they made more HP & they made it CORRECTLY.
I have seen sparkplug electrodes burned clean off from lean conditions & worse. Not looking to subject my new 14 to that possibility.
I will tell you this. The moment I get a PCIIIusb installed the bike will be on the dyno with the flaps off & I will give all results. I'am on the fence as to which pipe I'm gonna go with muzzy, Brock or Akro when that is introduced. I'm currently leaning towards the Brocks.
One other thing, I have 700 miles on my 14 it's not going on the dyno until it gets 1000 miles on the ODO. With all the damn rain around here lately I dont know when I will get there.
Now THAT'S common sense...
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swiftkart
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posted June 07, 2006 06:56 PM
I see you finally got it right.
...says the lemming.
No answers??
...says the lemmings b@$ch
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dubious
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posted June 07, 2006 06:58 PM
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swiftkart
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posted June 08, 2006 05:43 AM
Hey fastestbusa,
i got some info from the man himself on this mod, i'm waiting for his approval to post his findings, he didn't send me a dyno curve, but he did send the numbers and the AF ratio.
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dubious
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posted June 08, 2006 05:45 AM
which.... man himself.
Guys you know they have been doing this to the GSXR 1000 from 2000 to 2002!
I'm not sure of the other years.
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posted June 08, 2006 05:50 AM
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Hey fastestbusa,
i got some info from the man himself on this mod, i'm waiting for his approval to post his findings, he didn't send me a dyno curve, but he did send the numbers and the AF ratio.
Cool! The A/F numbers are all we need to know...to be safe...Dyno won't much matter, just because when you ride the bike, you have a shitass grin from ear to ear in every gear when you throttle her at 3K....scary indeed...let's see them numbers swiftkart!!! 
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posted June 08, 2006 06:29 AM
He doesn't recommend riding your bikes with this mod without remapping because the bike goes dead lean 16-1 AFR at 3,200 rpm which is cruising range rpm and could damage your engine... the gain was 10hp/20 ft-lbs at 3,200 rpm with a 16-1 afr, there will be a much bigger gain with good mapping, he will build a mapp for this mod after he returns from running his 14 at prostar at Memphis and should have the results by the end of next week. He's already left for the day so I didn't get his ok to post this or his name, but you guys can read between the lines.
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posted June 08, 2006 06:48 AM
 Edited By: dubious on 8 Jun 2006 08:05
Awesome news LOL fuckin A
Good , I filled out my info for map updates and requested a map for the mod sooo........
Awesome!
I thought it leaned out with the pipe on it... lean backfire on decel... which i could not hear with stock pipe yesterday!
Wicked power increase..
Hey everyone... better get your TRE cause its the answer... LOL
Ivan................. what fuckin ass hole!
Doesn't pay to lie to people Ivan.
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posted June 08, 2006 07:18 AM
Hey swftkart did the man say there was an increase in hp up top??? thx
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posted June 08, 2006 07:39 AM
Ok, it turns out he was still in the office and said it was ok to post his name, it's Brock himself. Brock saw 20ft-lbs gain valves removed vs Ivan's tre chart showing 10ft-lbs for the tre gain over stock so 10hp/20ft-lbs is still a big gain considering the bike being way lean at 16-1 AFR with valves removed, It will be very interesting to see what it makes after mapping.
Brock is it ok to post your findings so that no one damages their engines while riding with the valves removed?
YES- please do.
I saw Ivan's post....I don't have a TRE but I saw exactly the same thing...but opposite what he said?!
BD
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serius blk
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posted June 08, 2006 09:44 AM
Who says kaw cant make a power motor. Looks to me they did preventive things to keep the power down. Ha Ha Kaw. I would how long did they think it was going to be before people tap into the motors true power. I think the bike still has more hidden potential in the ecm. Only time will tell.
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posted June 08, 2006 10:35 AM
Was there an increase in top end hp? So if one already had a pipe and pc. Would it be safe to add about 105 at 2500 rpm and then add 15% percent at 3k then maybe 12% in the 3500 rpm cell until it gets to a dyno? Lastly, was the 16.0 af ratio only at 100% throttle?
thx
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posted June 08, 2006 11:08 AM
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Why would I buy a bike immediately and get all the trouble
The bike costs double the US price here
I could get two of them in the US in price of one in Finland
OR
if I were unlucky enough to live in Denmark
I would have to pay triple price
SheeschZZ !!
Even the gasoline is far more expensive here at almost 1,50 per liter
I guess you get a gallon with that money, right?
Yes - I'm still dreaming of a modern Sport-Touring bike with Busa pull
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How come you don't move???
I just offered my IT-skills to a co. in the U.S. of A.
My 1st salary goes to furniture...noooo! to the bike!!
Hmmm. I think I need a bank loan, too....
Can't afford everything at 1st
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posted June 08, 2006 02:23 PM
People that will eventually do this mod (like me) need to stash some cash for lottsa rear tires! 
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posted June 08, 2006 02:32 PM
I will be heading to the dyno on the 19th. I'm not sure if I will have a exhaust by then or not, but I will deff. be doing the pull with the PC3 and secondaries removed.
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