fastestbusaaround
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posted April 24, 2006 10:00 AM
all of the above...but lubing and adjustment before anything else.
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Stalwart
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posted April 24, 2006 10:45 AM
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all of the above...but lubing and adjustment before anything else.
I say lubing and cleaning because wear is GREATLY accelerated with dirt. Extreme lack of any one can negate the best attention of the other two.
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ZX11D
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posted April 24, 2006 11:02 AM
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Matt,
I suspect you ride like me, I would suggest getting the centerstand. Here are my reasons I'm buying mine.
1. I travel a lot and being 1000 miles from home any extra needs will cramp your already low storage situation. Pop it up on the CS and lube wipe and GO.
2. Europeans get a centerstand on theirs. Lucky devils (I think I read that anyway).
3. I want a centerstand on all my bikes period. I really don't give a dam about weight, I guess I'm a bit old school but chain's will get better care with a centerstand than without period.
Robert
I agree with Robert. I've got to have one, period. 
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zx61114
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posted April 24, 2006 12:27 PM
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...which is more important for a modern 'sealed' chain?....cleaning?....lubing?....or proper adjustment?
....LET THE GAMES BEGIN!!!!.....
My thinking is they are all important. At the risk of repeating myself.
Cleaning: I clean every 2 months with mineral sprits.
Lubing: You should lube every 500 miles or so. Easy way to figure out if your not lubing enough. Looking at the back of the bike if the chain looks like ball bearings it needs lube badly. If things look dirty things are fine. I lube with silicone from Dupont blue lable, I get mine from Lowe's. After you lube wipe down the chain to prevent dirt from getting into the o-rings.
Proper Adjustment: Well with the VFR 1.5 inch of slack is proper, But if your not sure ALWAYS ERROR ON THE SIDE OF LOOSE.
Hope this helps.
Rob
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speedgene
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posted April 24, 2006 12:52 PM
Proper adjustment is more important. Who cares what the outside looks like, it's "sealed" inside. Is this a trick question?
Wanna talk about chains? When you finally replace your rear tire (or more importantly, valve shims) for the first time on your new bike, will you?:
1. Re-time the sprocket tooth to the chain link, or...
2. Doesn't matter, I'll start a new chain/sprocket wear pattern.
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worm~hole
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posted April 24, 2006 01:45 PM
 Edited By: worm~hole on 24 Apr 2006 14:46
...me?...I've always wiped and lubed, but I lubed to primarily mitigate chain noise...I'm no expert, but as for me, chain adjustment on a modern sealed x-ring or o-ring or elomenopee-ring has been the most important factor for drive chain service...cleaning IS important and that's a given, but with a mal-adjusted chain, cleaning is a moot point cuz' the chain will be toast in short order anyway and yer' gonna need a new one and have to put up with the frustration and downtime of replacing it by yourself or pay someone to change it for you...me, I paid someone else to change mine just because my time was worth more than it what it took my mechanic to do it for me at that time...and he made it look so damn easy...the right tools for the right job does that, I suppose 
..for instance...for short day hops of 300~600miles, I always carry my quick-stand, a mini-can of wd40, and a rag in my Dino-trunk...for long-ass multiple-day trips, I carry a bigger can in my tankbag...at any rate, check and adjust chain as needed no matter what...a hitch-pin works well for tht often loosened axle nut and a couple of open-ended 10mm wrenches wrapped with the aforementioned qs/wd40/rag makes it much easier than digging through the tool bag...and yes, that quick-stand (or the home-made versions) makes it even easier!
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Joe Cool
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posted April 25, 2006 02:06 PM
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Proper adjustment is more important. Who cares what the outside looks like, it's "sealed" inside. Is this a trick question?
Wanna talk about chains? When you finally replace your rear tire (or more importantly, valve shims) for the first time on your new bike, will you?:
1. Re-time the sprocket tooth to the chain link, or...
2. Doesn't matter, I'll start a new chain/sprocket wear pattern.
I checked the drive chain on my KZ & it's not timed. I rotated the tire to get 5 or 6 full rotations on the chain & it never landed in the same spot, the closest it came to the original spot was 2 links away. I'm sure over time it would line up again, but I don't think it matters. Probably the same for the cam chain, just time the cams to each other & the crank.
For the past several years I've used 80/90 gear oil to lube my chain & had better results than spray lubes; easier to clean & less mess all around. Automatic oilers sound like the way to go,,,,,, if there's room
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fastestbusaaround
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posted April 25, 2006 04:45 PM
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Proper adjustment is more important. Who cares what the outside looks like, it's "sealed" inside. Is this a trick question?
Wanna talk about chains? When you finally replace your rear tire (or more importantly, valve shims) for the first time on your new bike, will you?:
1. Re-time the sprocket tooth to the chain link, or...
2. Doesn't matter, I'll start a new chain/sprocket wear pattern.
Excuse my ignorance...but uness you remove links..how do you "re-time" a chain, and why does it matter? I would think it would be better to wear more evenly across the entire chain, no?
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worm~hole
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posted April 26, 2006 09:02 AM
...any U.S. ZX-14 owners order/install their OEM centerstands yet?....how easy was it to install?...how'd it affect the bike's lean angle?
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