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posted March 25, 2006 10:04 AM
Delay Reasons
I've been racking my head trying to think about what might have happened for Kawasaki to delay shipment. A observation that I put together that may been a issue. First we heard that Coby Adams had dynoed the bike and that he had to make some air box mods to get the bike to put down some horespower... And then we saw the preproduction versions of the air intake and then the production versions. There was a pictures on here I do believe.. There were big differences in the size.. If this was the reason or did they have some major other issues? Engine etc.. Something had to set them back
   
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posted March 25, 2006 11:34 AM
it's because 1999 wuz the year, 194 mph. yeah.
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posted March 25, 2006 11:40 AM
 Edited By: Drowland on 25 Mar 2006 11:46
For reel do
Do dont now who my daddy be confuzing day in tha hood be Fathers day bu do got me 185 dolla air shox but government housing is tha shizzzit chill caus rolles me a blunt peace outs
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posted March 25, 2006 03:24 PM
Sounds like deja-vu all over again.
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posted March 25, 2006 03:49 PM
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I've been racking my head trying to think about what might have happened for Kawasaki to delay shipment. A observation that I put together that may been a issue. First we heard that Coby Adams had dynoed the bike and that he had to make some air box mods to get the bike to put down some horespower... And then we saw the preproduction versions of the air intake and then the production versions. There was a pictures on here I do believe.. There were big differences in the size.. If this was the reason or did they have some major other issues? Engine etc.. Something had to set them back
put the pipe down and step away....... crack kills..
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posted March 25, 2006 04:03 PM
I'm guessing there was some last minute 'tweaking' on the bike or possibly they have supplier issues on some of the components on the bike. I am sure they are doing everything humanly possible to get these bikes into the show rooms. They want to sell the bikes as much as we want to buy them. It will start to cost them sales in the southern US where the riding season has already started (also where it never ends year round!)
It is snowing like hell again here today (another 15 cm on the way) so the lack of the '14 is not an issue yet in the 'great white north'!
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posted March 25, 2006 05:58 PM
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I've been racking my head trying to think about what might have happened for Kawasaki to delay shipment. A observation that I put together that may been a issue. First we heard that Coby Adams had dynoed the bike and that he had to make some air box mods to get the bike to put down some horespower... And then we saw the preproduction versions of the air intake and then the production versions. There was a pictures on here I do believe.. There were big differences in the size.. If this was the reason or did they have some major other issues? Engine etc.. Something had to set them back
put the pipe down and step away....... crack kills..
CRACK KILLS BUT SURE DID BRING THE PRICE OF PUSSY DOWN
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posted March 25, 2006 07:42 PM
I'm not sure why the delay but I don't think HP has anything to do with it. As one who visits mfg plants Kawasaki knows exactly what how much HP each and every bike puts out, they would not have brought them to Daytona if they were unsure or tweeks were needed. If I had to guess the problem lets try this. It is importaint for Kawasaki to distribute the bikes evenly. Most dealers get along with other dealers fine, but that's not always the case so what can happen? Some seriously pissed off dealer going back and fourth with Kawasaki playing favorites. So I suspect the day the bike hit's Daytona is the same day the bike will hit Atlanta (or within a day). Trust me this is not an easy task but it's an opinion that makes the most sense to me.
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posted March 26, 2006 03:19 AM
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And then we saw the preproduction versions of the air intake and then the production versions. There was a pictures on here I do believe.. There were big differences in the size.. If this was the reason or did they have some major other issues? Engine etc.. Something had to set them back
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pre-prod vs final :
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posted March 26, 2006 03:52 AM
Kawi had to change the intake because they were worried about sucking in dogs and other furry woodland creatures.
I don't really care too much, but I think it looks better with the smaller intake.
And for shipping delays...well sometimes, shit happens. It could have nothing to do with the bike.
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posted March 26, 2006 04:55 AM
Thanks dude!
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posted March 26, 2006 09:50 AM
Edited By: aughtsix on 26 Mar 2006 09:52
Oops, never mind...
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posted March 26, 2006 10:02 AM
Edited By: worm~hole on 26 Mar 2006 10:03
...you guys are smoking some stinky ass-crack...with my unique powers of observation I've concluded that the intake holes are the same dimensions...the only differences between the bikes in the top and bottom pictures appear to be a noticable deviation of the shot perspective, thus creating an illusion, and lack of airflow strakes on the mirror arms on the bike in the top picture...either way, right or wrong, just relax....it'll get here soon enough when it does...and I'll probably get mine first 
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posted March 26, 2006 10:22 AM
thanks worm! my thouhts exactly... I'd sure like to see how people think the holes are different. They STILL look the same to me!
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posted March 26, 2006 10:47 AM
Edited By: worm~hole on 26 Mar 2006 10:49
...of course they'll say that they don't have the pre-production models to physically compare it with...oooooh....its one meeeeleeeeonth of an inch smaller.....oh the humanity!!!!....oh why oh why do they want to make this bike go so much slower with that smaller intake????!!!!....oh geeeeez , I think I'm gonna have a hernia in my nutsack! 
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drowland
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posted March 26, 2006 10:57 AM
Look at the area between the windscreen and intake.. You guys think thats the same dimensions? Big differences in thickness I think...
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posted March 26, 2006 11:41 AM
Edited By: Tool Man on 26 Mar 2006 11:42
Ya no you could put a Tuba on the intake of a XR-70 and not make it go any faster! In fact the drag would probably slow it down  Maybe it maybe too much drag and the tradeoff ( less drag , less intake noise, better secondary resonance issues necessitated the change) anyway no biggie for me.
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posted March 26, 2006 11:49 AM
thanks fir the pics
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posted March 26, 2006 01:31 PM
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First we heard that Coby Adams had dynoed the bike and that he had to make some air box mods to get the bike to put down some horespower... And then we saw the preproduction versions of the air intake and then the production versions. There was a pictures on here I do believe.. There were big differences in the size..
Production bike (smaller Ram-air intake) already has been out at some showrooms in Japan since December.
In January some Japanese magazine reported about those bodywork change.
And Coby Adams's bike is also a production bike with smaller intake.
Smaller intake doesn't neccesary mean less horsepower.
MotoGP bikes have much more horsepower than 14 but have much smaller ram-air intakes.
Smaller intake = more flash surface = less drag, better aerodynamics = more fast, more comfortable
I too like the looks with smaller intake.
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posted March 26, 2006 02:24 PM
A young Japanese girl had been taught all her life that when she married
she was to please her husband and never upset him. So the first morning of
her honeymoon the young Japanese bride crawled out of bed after making
l ove, stooped down to pick up her husband's clothes and accidentally let
out a big fart.
She looked up and said:
"Aww so sowwy...excuse prease, front hole so happy back hole laugh out
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posted March 26, 2006 02:58 PM
These are first posted at early January to early March.
They all have smaller ram-air intakes.
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drowland
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posted March 26, 2006 04:38 PM
so it does look as if Coby and Rickey has the production intakes... What other reasons do you think that they have been holding the bikes up???
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posted March 26, 2006 05:00 PM
has it occurred to someone that they're not "holding the bikes up" and are just have operational problems? perhaps they just can't get them built, shipped, or delivered fast enough for one reason or another. i'm not saying that's the case, but y'all sure sound like a bunch of conspiracy theorists jumping to the intentional delay conclusions. ockham's razor anyone?
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posted March 26, 2006 05:43 PM
Delay
I read an article a few years ago concerning ram air. I can't remember the exact info but I seem to recall that the total area of ram air opening only needs to be as large as the combined area of the intake manifolds....something like that. In anycase, it stated that once you reach a certain size, it does the bike no good going larger. That's why you don't see bikes with huge ram air intakes.
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drowland
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posted March 26, 2006 06:13 PM
if thats not huge ram air vents I don't know what is...
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