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posted March 07, 2006 01:02 AM        Edited By: VPN on 8 Mar 2006 01:03
NEWS: Production bike changed!

NEWS: Production bike changed!

One of the differences between pre-prod & prods is the new cockpit
The Analog gauges should have a longer range eg. wider spread with the same numbers
The redline is now ticket and the oil-warning light could be different
ABS light should be beside it in euromodels (in the rpm meter area)
Euromodels are easy to recognize (sans UK) for only km/h speedo readings
The ABS is ...ready
Sorry, I was interrupted for about ½ hour
and the rest of the info is now lost - dementia!

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posted March 07, 2006 03:18 AM        
I can't recall for sure, but the ABS system should have 60 holes (& 60 "bridges") per revolution
They could have 120 "DDR" impulses per revolution of the wheel.
That's accurate enough?!

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posted March 07, 2006 06:11 AM        
quote:
NEWS: Production bike changed!

One of the differences between pre-prod & prods is the new cockpit
The LCD should be much more recessed providing bewtter protections from reflections etc
The Analog gauges should have a longer range eg. wider spread with the same numbers
The redline is now ticket and the oil-warning light could be different
ABS light should be beside it in euromodels (in the rpm meter area)
Euromodels are easy to recognize (sans UK) for only km/h speedo readings
The ABS is ...ready
Sorry, I was interrupted for about ½ hour
and the rest of the info is now lost - dementia!



could you do the same with explication by picture ?
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Hitman12


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posted March 07, 2006 09:05 AM        Edited By: Hitman12 on 7 Mar 2006 09:05
Also the the ram air opening is a tad smaller on the production model unless you put them side by side and measured you may overlook it but it it is a tad smaller.......................
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posted March 07, 2006 09:06 AM        Edited By: VPN on 8 Mar 2006 01:04
How is this wonderful French guy having so many pictures available to delight us:
US prodcution bike gauges: 8200 rpm straight up, dashed redline



nigh picture, not so detailde, but look at gauges: its production model



Pre-prod: 9000rpm straight up, solid redline


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posted March 07, 2006 09:29 AM        
VPN, bikes are continuosly changed through development...

the information we have released in the intro, including photos, pertains directly to production models.

sorry to disappoint, but what yer posting ain't new info.
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posted March 07, 2006 09:33 AM        
....so does this mean we could get the digital speedo and ABS?
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posted March 07, 2006 09:34 AM        Edited By: fish_antlers on 7 Mar 2006 09:34
no.... the bike's we photographed are what you get.
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posted March 07, 2006 10:39 AM        Edited By: VPN on 7 Mar 2006 12:57
Not new info to you, Fish, but maybe not all fans knew this
I for one was suprised
I just try to be informative
AND
besides nobody pointed this out (photos included) before me, right?

European ABS system can be seen here

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posted March 07, 2006 10:48 AM        
can you please make that photo a little smaller?
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posted March 07, 2006 11:05 AM        
VPN - I don't understand. Are you saying that ABS on European models was a recent addition? It's been in Euro ZZR1400 photos since the first batch from Kawasaki were released back in September-October.

I've also compared the instrument panel on the pre-production bikes (from the US bike shows) to photos taken by the press in Las Vegas on production bikes. There appears to be no difference. Can you point out what you are talking about in the photos? Thanks!
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posted March 07, 2006 12:56 PM        
quote:
can you please make that photo a little smaller?



HAHAHA !!!
Supersize me.
HE HE
He doesn't get mad , he gets even!

I think youll have to fix it. ERRR most of his pics are oversized.

LOL
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posted March 07, 2006 12:59 PM        Edited By: VPN on 7 Mar 2006 13:01
zerMATT - the ABS is shown here in a pre-prod model
Sorry about the confusion
I was just wondering about system getting 60 or 120 pulses per rotation
I was interrupted in the middle of my writing
so the rest of the comparison is lost forever

I have also cropped from the same picture just the ront wheel with the ABS disc shown
AND
the pictures are not too big
you athers have too small pictures!
How else could we admire every small detail of this beauty
but having these extraordinary pictures?!


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posted March 07, 2006 01:10 PM        
Just playin ya buddy .
Just kidding around!
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posted March 07, 2006 01:44 PM        Edited By: zerMATT on 7 Mar 2006 19:08
VPN - I see what you mean about the 9,000 rpm and redline marking differences now that your pictures are viewable But I don't think that the recess has changed any. Here is a pre-prod picture that I took, followed by a production picture taken in Las Vegas. The camera angle is slightly different, but the recess doesn't appear to be any different.

Also notice on the pre-prod speedo that that 180kph & 110mph line up perfectly, but on the production speedo, they do not line up exactly. I wonder if mph/kph conversions use a new formula since last fall?

Pre-production gauges from Fort Worth IMC Motorcycle Show:


Production gauges from Las Vagas press intro:


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posted March 07, 2006 01:46 PM        
Here's another ABS reluctor for you from a european show (Aviodrome?):


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posted March 07, 2006 03:31 PM        
umm...Zermatt? That's 180kph and 110mph.
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posted March 07, 2006 04:44 PM        
quote:
can you please make that photo a little smaller?
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Actually, could you make a little larger - I'm having problems seeing it
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posted March 07, 2006 07:09 PM        
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umm...Zermatt? That's 180kph and 110mph.
That's exactly what I said!! :d
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posted March 07, 2006 11:34 PM        
ok thanks, and new color caliper, black now !!!
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posted March 08, 2006 03:22 AM        
Just remaniding you fo this, too

Pre-Prod:



Prod:


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posted March 08, 2006 05:54 AM        
Here we go again...
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posted March 08, 2006 06:33 AM        Edited By: ZX11D on 8 Mar 2006 06:38
quote:
Just remaniding you fo this, too

Pre-Prod:

Prod:



VPN, just look at these two pictures closely again. The one with inverted Kawasaki sign is picture of the RIGHT side (not left), but it is inverted (mirror image). It is the throttle/front brake side and not the clutch. Position of the reservoirs will also give you a clue.

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posted March 08, 2006 08:17 AM        Edited By: VPN on 8 Mar 2006 08:25
Which one of the following is a production bike

The Grey



The Blue



The Red



The Black



The Green



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posted March 08, 2006 08:20 AM        
gee... this is a tough one
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