ambydupuis
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posted March 09, 2006 05:18 AM
Motorrad is not a bad magazine, at all, but I think it's a bit influenced by BMW, leader in the "technologicaly advanced" braking systems.
If not influenced by BMW, then try this: BMW=German, motorrad=German, Germans protects German technology.
I don't think you need to be a rtack day regular to acheive a better-than-ABS performance on dry ground.
(just my point of view here, no offense against Germany, in fact I love Germany and go there almost everytime I have the opportunity ! Yet our Belgian Beer is better ! ;-) )
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ninja rider
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posted March 09, 2006 05:29 AM
Edited By: ninja rider on 9 Mar 2006 05:31
quote: Motorrad is not a bad magazine, at all, but I think it's a bit influenced by BMW, leader in the "technologicaly advanced" braking systems.
If not influenced by BMW, then try this: BMW=German, motorrad=German, Germans protects German technology.
I don't think you need to be a rtack day regular to acheive a better-than-ABS performance on dry ground.
(just my point of view here, no offense against Germany, in fact I love Germany and go there almost everytime I have the opportunity ! Yet our Belgian Beer is better ! ;-) )
I agree with you that even they are sometimes biased towards BMW , but having been subscribed to 9 different motorcycle magazines, it was easy to spot that they are less so than most others (certainly those in favor of Honda or Yamaha) as they also dare to criticise German (BMW) products.
The thoroughness of their tests is very scientific and far beyond what all the others have to offer.
PS.: our Belgian beer is definitely better
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blueford
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posted March 09, 2006 06:39 AM
Me, I'd like a computer on the bike that senses roll angle and speed and computes the maximum amount of front brake I can apply leaned over in a turn.
I've been riding a long time, but I've got almost no idea where the margins are braking leaned over. Too afraid to practice!
They need BIKE "flight simulators" where one can bust the envelope safely and find right where the edge is.
ABS with a ON-OFF switch, would be cool!
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fish_antlers
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posted March 10, 2006 12:00 PM
I'd just like to get the bike... ABS or not!
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fish_antlers
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posted March 12, 2006 09:13 AM
BTW... stickies are gone (we're in the process of moving to a new server) so we have no way to sticky this to the top til that process is complete...
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ninja rider
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posted March 12, 2006 09:24 AM
quote: I'd just like to get the bike... ABS or not!
I would buy it w/o ABS (if I had the money)
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bugsey
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posted March 12, 2006 10:00 AM
quote: I'd just like to get the bike... ABS or not!
fish...would you keep your 10 or sell it?
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posted March 12, 2006 10:17 AM
seems as though (partially my own fault) that the hype surrounding this bike may have priced me out of buying one... only time will tell...
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posted March 12, 2006 10:46 AM
quote: BTW... stickies are gone (we're in the process of moving to a new server) so we have no way to sticky this to the top til that process is complete...
....top...so that KMC pays attention...
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fish_antlers
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posted March 15, 2006 07:40 AM
no ABS!
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posted March 15, 2006 08:23 AM
Time for an Ab roller
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posted March 16, 2006 07:28 AM
I'd sure like the sticky post back
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jeroen
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posted March 16, 2006 12:04 PM
I became a fan of ABS after locking the front brake of a Tuono and crashing it (at rather slow speed). A bit of dirt on the road just caught me by surprise. I think (hope) ABS would have saved me and my selfrespect
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posted March 22, 2006 08:32 AM
Edited By: fish_antlers on 23 Mar 2006 16:05
Like I said... I'd only take it ABS I could switch it off...
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posted March 23, 2006 04:06 PM
Still busy working on choppingMike's review up...
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posted March 23, 2006 04:10 PM
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posted March 23, 2006 07:47 PM
what can I say when I type, I type....
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fastestbusaaround
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posted March 24, 2006 05:59 AM
Edited By: fastestbusaaround on 24 Mar 2006 06:00
quote: Me, I'd like a computer on the bike that senses roll angle and speed and computes the maximum amount of front brake I can apply leaned over in a turn.
I've been riding a long time, but I've got almost no idea where the margins are braking leaned over. Too afraid to practice!
They need BIKE "flight simulators" where one can bust the envelope safely and find right where the edge is.
ABS with a ON-OFF switch, would be cool!
Braking in a turn when in trouble will almost certainly makes things worse every time. The bike will always stand up straight when you brake in a turn; trail braking is the best practice, but that's something that needs to be done before you get into trouble. Takes balls, time and practice, but when you get into trouble in a turn...you've got to push harder on them bars, get down lower and accelerate out of it as best as you can. Being in the right gear in the turn makes all the difference in the world too. Best place to practice this is on the track... When in trouble, back brake will tend to make the bike stand up less than the front and like I said, best place to practice is on the track where even if you bite it, you'll more than likely walk away clean. I go to the track several times a year just to polish up on this (and have a blast). Any attempt (including gearing) to slow the machine down while in a turn will result in the bike standing up and that's where the real trouble starts. If you haven't done track, you'd be amazed at the results after only a few hours on it. I highly recommend it to anyone wishing to enhance /perfect their riding skills. You can usually get a track/bike (600cc) rental with a group for a day for about $500.00 or less for a full day including training. In my 32+ years of riding, I have always believed you can't know or learn too much and spending time learning whether it be on the track or off, is the best thing you can do to survive. I like to carve canyons as often as I can, but sometimes tend to push the envelope like many others here and you've got to be prepared for those diminishing radius turns, cuz they'll bite you in the ass every time.
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posted April 05, 2006 10:18 AM
quote: they'll bite you in the ass every time.
sexy!
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posted April 05, 2006 10:42 AM
quote: seems as though (partially my own fault) that the hype surrounding this bike may have priced me out of buying one... only time will tell...
Kawi should give you 1 for all the positive press
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posted April 05, 2006 10:58 AM
quote:
quote: seems as though (partially my own fault) that the hype surrounding this bike may have priced me out of buying one... only time will tell...
Kawi should give you 1 for all the positive press
not counting on it
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posted April 05, 2006 11:02 AM
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quote: they'll bite you in the ass every time.
sexy!
right...I was being politically correct...what I really meant was that they'll leave you hangin in a fuckin tree with yer guts spewed out on the road...so there!
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posted April 09, 2006 09:32 AM
sure ya did !
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fastestbusaaround
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posted April 09, 2006 09:34 AM
I did...honest!
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posted April 09, 2006 06:11 PM
You oughtta' have your Glock on your person. It's thesafest and fastest way to carry it. I'm partial to In-the-Pants carry during the warm months(Refrain from the obvious, unnecessary comments, please.). Fine weapon. Doesn't shoot like a nice customized 1911, but they're combat tough/simple. Of course, nothing shoots like a finely tuned 1911...
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