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posted March 04, 2006 12:12 PM
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prob I have is that I'm still paying fer my 10R....
Career wife with 6 figure income, no mortgage anymore = more toys for me! Got my wife into biking last year year with a Vino Scooter. It's a baby step, she is taking her class 6 this spring. The SV 650 I have would be perfect for her.
Sorry, she does not have a sister!
  
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fish_antlers
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posted March 04, 2006 12:15 PM
can you adopt me?
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posted March 04, 2006 12:26 PM
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I'm disappointed!!! Now if it could fly and pull 3Gs inverted and do a sharp 4 point roll ending with a Cuban 8, now were talking!!! FUCK ME NO TRUNK SPACE????? WHERE DO I PUT MY GLOCK???
I'll take 2, black, no sugar please. 
Have to check out 'techmounts' for their Glock holding mount. I mean you want it up front in a quick draw holster...................what's the point in having it under the seat where you can't get at it quickly?
Yes, and this way it will not be classified as "concealed weapon"! 
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posted March 04, 2006 12:30 PM
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I'm disappointed!!! Now if it could fly and pull 3Gs inverted and do a sharp 4 point roll ending with a Cuban 8, now were talking!!! FUCK ME NO TRUNK SPACE????? WHERE DO I PUT MY GLOCK???
I'll take 2, black, no sugar please.
Have to check out 'techmounts' for their Glock holding mount. I mean you want it up front in a quick draw holster...................what's the point in having it under the seat where you can't get at it quickly?
Yes, and this way it will not be classified as "concealed weapon"!
Maybe you will be able to 'melt' the idiot in the cage by turning on the high beams!
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posted March 04, 2006 07:54 PM
Awesome report Fish. I would love to trade places with you even though you are an ugly sumofabitch......lol
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bugsey
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posted March 04, 2006 09:11 PM
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posted March 04, 2006 09:18 PM
Finally
Man!!!!!!!!! I just want to thank you for finally getting some kind of information out to the public. I am losing my mind trying to figure out whether or not to buy the zx14 and you have eased my mind!!!!!
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fish_antlers
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posted March 04, 2006 10:03 PM
no prob, bro!  hope it helped!
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posted March 04, 2006 10:29 PM
It's working for sure. While I was at the shop today I heard at least 6 or 8 GANGSTA type guys asking "Where that 14 be Dawg?" These are the same guys that are usually askin "where the Busa be?" YES, Kawasaki you've finally done it  You have cornered the Busa crowd!!!! Yipeee
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fish_antlers
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posted March 04, 2006 10:31 PM
yo!
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posted March 05, 2006 03:31 AM
Nice review Fish. I'm with you, like the headlights but not sure about the grill. Mine a Candy Thunder Blue one, about 5 weeks to go and counting.......
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sagot
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posted March 05, 2006 10:25 AM
Good writing dude.
I don't think I'll buy one as I have about 200 other bikes to buy first in this life but it actually sounds like a good sport tourer!
Do they allow handle bar holsters in the states?
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posted March 05, 2006 11:10 AM
One of the best, truly honest, detailed reviews I've ever read.
(I can't believe I actually said that)
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fish_antlers
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posted March 05, 2006 11:11 AM
Edited By: fish_antlers on 5 Mar 2006 11:11
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One of the best, truly honest, detailed reviews I've ever read.
(I can't believe I actually said that)
 ... neither can I! Go wash your mouth out with soap 
seriously though,
-thanks bro
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ninja rider
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posted March 05, 2006 11:22 AM
Far better than a page full of stats, mph, pounds, inches and horses at cranks.
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posted March 05, 2006 12:01 PM
Edited By: speedgene on 5 Mar 2006 12:06
I'm curious. What was the breakdown of the riders that where there fish/MM? Where there people riding these bikes that have monthly, or weekly rags, and where reporting along with you all? Can you connect faces to paper publications?
Here's the thing I wonder about? All those fucking bikes, and all those riders (exclude pro riders/journalist).... all that talent at this event, and all you come up with are two "nutters?" Where they even hired guns for the magazines?
Sans the pro riders (MM included) clocking good numbers on the 1320... what was left....."Gentleman Riders?"
That's who looks like showed up to me? No offense, but these people I assume have experienced riding a 12-Busa-XX type bike or combination there of...and don't forget to add all that track-day experience, pipes, ecm trigger boxes (for more speed?) and what not. Am I correct?
Fish, you sound like an element rider, which means you would even ride two wheels in the snow, and ice (no screws in tires)..."come hell or high water"... this be you, right? I know you're a very good rider with that kind of attitude to the sport. But lets face it, a bunch of wimps showed up to ride the 14. I think the first ride scared the shit out of most of them. I can't get over just two riders out there having fun with the 14....out of how many riders?
I don't care about no stinkin' road test (you still wrote a great article none the less fish). You think I care how this terd handles? I bought the bike for it's engine. I could care less how they package the rest of the bike. All those bragging rights the 'gentleman riders' could have had under their belt. They had enough days to pop off at least 175 for a split second. I figure you'll get just as busted up (or die) going 155 as you would going another 15/20 more miles an hour on that oval. Kind of humbles one that each had a chance to hit the mark and explain how this "purpose built" puppy feels like 20 miles off the two ton mark.
Show the photo with the line out of the Ladies Restroom, holding quarters in their nervously perspiring little hands, cranking Tampon pads out of the dispenser, (that's if they can stop shaking from fear, so they could drop the quarter in) then packing them strategically in place before their next test ride.
Personally, If we could turn the tables around, I would have picked k bryant to go oval testing. No way to click off 180's on the street, so the oval "was" the best place for this. No way "gentlemen riders" are going to go there either it seems?... street or oval. They blew their chance. So far, I've seen the numbers in dry conditions. I believe 155 is just a tick slow under rain conditions.
Sorry if I offended any of the non-pro's. That wasn't my intent. I'm more disappointed by the "lost opportunity" a lot of riders missed exploring... REAL SPEED on a bike capable of doing just that!
Look, all I wanted to do was make a few out there laugh. That is it. Period. Go no deeper than that. Call it sarcasm, parody, whatever. If the joke is on you, how else could I work the whole Tampon punch-line in? I'm just having fun with (my sick humor) waiting around for the 14. You believe me, don't you?
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fish_antlers
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posted March 05, 2006 12:08 PM
I dont know what to believe... the people there were "real" riders and "real" press... WE were just the joe-average schmucks from the internet...
you know... press, like Cycleworld etc etc... most people rode the bike same or faster than us.. like I said only a few went nuts.. and it really is nuts IMHO on that track... too small for a bike that fast. I saw a higher top speed on the 10R on the front straight of fontana.
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posted March 05, 2006 01:19 PM
Fish,
Kudos for a "Real Riders View" of what the 14 is about, if this doesn't tweek the intertest of the forum to persue their own take on the bike and arrive at the decision if its for them or not what would!
To make a statement on a bike like this is exactly what Kwai wanted, the 12R essentially remained the same bike for 6 years ( great though it is ) while the litre class cycles every 2, I wonder just how many owners of a 12R really ever rode it like it can be?
If Kawi had just made a capacity increase and minor looks make over they would have been accused of reverting to the ways of Old, it takes balls to go in a totally different direction and cop all the flack. ( or not )
I think Kawasaki have made a major Corporate decision that in the Global scheme of the Company "Motorcycles Actually Matter! If you doubt this Why buy a Race Track? Look at the gains in GP...........
Is it just me or are Kawasaki bikes different from the rest in some way they have a raw edge that the other Jap bikes just lack?
It would be intertesting to know just what draws the members of the forum to the brand as many like myself have a number of bikes all Kawi's.
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posted March 05, 2006 03:54 PM
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I don't care about no stinkin' road test (you still wrote a great article none the less fish). You think I care how this terd handles? I bought the bike for it's engine. I could care less how they package the rest of the bike.
Without quality handling capabilities what's the point of having the best engine?
Doing just donuts?
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zxhoya
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posted March 05, 2006 05:22 PM
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It's working for sure. While I was at the shop today I heard at least 6 or 8 GANGSTA type guys asking "Where that 14 be Dawg?" These are the same guys that are usually askin "where the Busa be?" YES, Kawasaki you've finally done it You have cornered the Busa crowd!!!! Yipeee
That's exactly What I was discussing with my brother at the bike show in DC. ZX-14 display crowded while the Busa display empty. Many of the people checking out the ZX with a fine tooth comb were Busa boys. Some liked it but most said it was ugly and looked heavy, but I garuantee many will make the switch. It seems a certain kind of person ride Busa's (generally speaking), the kind that want only the fastest for bragging rights. If Suzuki comes out with a ZX-14 killer in '07 they will be trading in their 1 year-old ZX's. I love Kawasaki's and am thrilled with the direction of the Company. Go Kaw.
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posted March 05, 2006 05:53 PM
Fish: Can't say enough about how much I appreciate your detailed, thoughtful, analysis of your three day experience with the ZX-14 introduction. Thank You! Two questions for you: A) A few years ago, Kawasaki hired Shunji Tanaka from Mazda as chief designer. Many reviews and articles penned Tanaka-san as the principle stylist of the Z1000, both 03 and 05 ZX-6R, and 04 ZX-10R, and the 06 Ninja 650 (ER-6N elsewhere). All these bikes appear to be drawn from the "same lump of clay", with clean, purposeful lines, as if one person was responsible for the complete package. The ZX-14 looks as if more then one person has input in the final design. Kawasaki is proud of hiring Tanaka, and has featured him in prior introductions. What was said of Tanaka-san at the introduction, and of his responsibility in designing the ZX-14? B) If you purchase the ZX-14, will you keep the ZX-10R?
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posted March 05, 2006 06:58 PM
VPN, think of it like this. The Z1 900 engine was the power plant of it's time. It ran "donuts" around other brand bikes. Decades later, using the "head only" is still used for drag racing. You're probably too young to see guys wiggle down the straights on these old bikes. The frames were gusseted for strength. Still didn't matter with the power of a warmed over 900.
Fast forward to the 14, and all that's changed is a bike with the same front fork design, only placed upside down (as if it matters) and the rear shock(s) inboard instead of outboard. Shock for shock, this bike is going to ride the same no matter how many fine adjusting knobs at your disposal.
In other words, you simply ride the wheels off the bike. If (upon roll-off) you see daylight between the wheel and ground, guess what, you still have steering. So much for shocks helping the wheel to stay put on the ground. A chassis doesn't seem important at this point is how I look at it. Why have "quality handling capabilities" if no one takes it to it's potential?
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posted March 05, 2006 07:24 PM
I don't knoiw if I'm too young, I'm still under 48 years
I want superior handling from a Sport-Tourer
Drag-Racers couln't care less, but that's only one aspect of this bike
Just think about curvy roads
The Suspension is fully adjustable
I would like to see an adjustable steering damper anywayz (ok, 14 doesn't need it)
Also slipper clutch is a must with this much power
Unfortunately ZX-14 is missing that
ABS is nice, so is large tank, brakes, lights, all the little details
Hmmm.... titanium mufflers would have helped on the weight
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speedgene
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posted March 05, 2006 08:31 PM
Leave the clutch as is. Live with the back wheel hopping (it's fun), or don't use the back brake. This bike is Purpose Built, remember?
I believe you can see the results how well this clutch works with the touch RG put down this weekend.
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posted March 05, 2006 08:57 PM
How about a fly-by-wire clutch?
Fully programmable to do what pleases you?!!
Including Yamaha-style (or air-shifter-style) easy shifting via buttons
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