quote:I like how it hits the 500Hp line on the dyno like a smart bomb dropped from a F117!
Blueford who you talking to??????? Get on the phone and ask your question dont think out loud on these bords! call the man then you can get one and head to the track.
posted December 26, 2005 10:04 AM
Look guys I am not a drag racer, don't know shit about it, other than watching it on TV occasionally.
Do I think Muzzy's turbo can make 500Hp? Sure, why not, do I think it's a good product? Probably, so, at this point we have no problem, right?
So lets have a little side discussion on the silliness of all manufactures that use purported dynos to promote their products, no names, we won't whisper Muzzy's name anywhere OK? So, you guys aren't pissed off yet right? You're calm? Good so,
what da ya think about those penis enlargement products, I was thinking about buying one, they had this picture of a huge monster dick that would look, so so good on me!!
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posted December 27, 2005 03:28 PM
quote:Look guys I am not a drag racer, don't know shit about it, other than watching it on TV occasionally.
Do I think Muzzy's turbo can make 500Hp? Sure, why not, do I think it's a good product? Probably, so, at this point we have no problem, right?
So lets have a little side discussion on the silliness of all manufactures that use purported dynos to promote their products, no names, we won't whisper Muzzy's name anywhere OK? So, you guys aren't pissed off yet right? You're calm? Good so,
what da ya think about those penis enlargement products, I was thinking about buying one, they had this picture of a huge monster dick that would look, so so good on me!!
...dude...get a magnifying glass...its safe penis enlargement....just don't do it in direct sunlight....ask the surviving ants...they know better...
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posted December 30, 2005 05:05 PM
So lets have a little side discussion on the silliness of all manufactures that use purported dynos to promote their products, no names, we won't whisper Muzzy's name anywhere OK? So, you guys aren't pissed off yet right? You're calm? Good so,
No lets not talk about the manufactures and there Dyno charts lets talk about the Posers that dont build 500HP Bikes, Dont ride 500HP Bikes AND DO NOT INTEND TO BUY A 500HP TURBO KIT so why are you on this post ????????? Go some where like to the post where they are talking about tank pads!!!!!!! This info is for people that have SACK not POSERS so get off the DYNO chart and post some time slips or some exceding the speed limit tickets or something, if not you are a WANNA BE !!!!!
posted December 30, 2005 06:59 PM
Instead of jumping down blueford's throat, I choose to see the absurdity he refers to.
OF COURSE
all of us here on this thread on this august board are vastly experienced go-fast types, or at least hang around people who are, using the osmosis effect to steadily get faster. The most hilarious thing I've seen in this thread is an error of omission, the created myth that nobody has knocked down at the risk of somehow offending Rob Muzzy & Co.
I'll pop the bubble here and now-
Anybody who thinks they can write a check for 9 large and have the delivery truck drop off a box on their doorstep, and take a weekend in their garage with a $100 set of Husky tools from Home Depot, and wheel out a 500+HP ZX-10 to ride to work on Monday is beyond crazy or gullible.
What comes in the box is a starting point, a collection of items that will save a builder a lot of time and money thanks to tapping the expertise of Rob Muzzy & Co. There can't be any denying that it is a far more complex undertaking than, say, mountiog a set of slip-ons or a really cool looking tank protector. I would in fact greatly question the ability of any builder using the aforementioned kit to get to 500HP without at least an afternoon of dyno time, I know it would be way beyond me, if that makes me an asshole, so be it.
posted December 31, 2005 09:07 AM
tinhead- The installation of any Turbo kit should be performed by an experienced and competent mechanic. I would estimate the installation of the Stage III kit to be about 10-12 hours. This does not include time to install engine parts.
The Stage 1 kit about 3 hours.
NOTE!!!!!! There is no practical purpose for a 500hp motorcycle other than on a closed circuit race track
posted December 31, 2005 09:20 AM
Turbo 1320, try to understand this, my outstandingly debating Turbo builder, you're using the term poser and "wanna be" improperly, I previously prefaced my statement by stating that I was NOT a drag racer, therefore I can't be pretending to be something I am not pretending to be.
quote: RobMuzzy,
NOTE!!!!!! There is no practical purpose for a 500hp motorcycle other than on a closed circuit race track
You wanna bet, wait until I pull up to the drive-in on Saturday night, all I need now is my leather jacket with 500 HP TURBO on the back, kick-ass!!
posted December 31, 2005 11:36 AM
I would love to have turbo kit
I almost bought it - for the 1200/S Bandit that is
but the company to check those regulations of ai rpollution, safety, noice, etc..
quit doing the turbo inspections in Finland
So in order to get more power I try get my hands on Kawi-14
No turbo, so just TRE & PC III will have to do
I'll add /yes add) weight with ABS and centerstand option
then with aftermarket crash protectors, handlebar raisers, touring plex, 3*hard bags, alarm system
Scott oiler (or similar), perhaps a GPS like TomTom Rider, modify the seat...
I'm not sure about the pipes though....maybe next year?!
If I only could get just the bike I'd be happy!
Oh
I almost forgot my real point here:
why not a turbo or a dream of a turbo
even if I couln't handle that must power to full extend on a curvy road?
Even unexprienced drivers or drivers with empty pockets can dream?
What's wrong with a wet dream?
AND
what's wrong with questioning or even challanging that dream
eg. making sure that such a turbo kit for the ZX-14 really exists?
Currently we don't really know the specs of the stock Kwak
So is there a turbo? For a engine not available?
I don't think so!
posted January 01, 2006 01:13 AM
200hp.. pftttt ... child's play.. we're talkin' 500 here, bro! ____________ What business is it of yours where I'm from, Friendo?
posted January 01, 2006 12:40 PM
Edited By: tinhead on 1 Jan 2006 12:50
Well. Mr. _antlers, since we're talking about things that haven't been talked about yet, let's consider Mr. Muzzy's words of wisdom.
"The installation of any Turbo kit should be performed by an experienced and competent mechanic. I would estimate the installation of the Stage III kit to be about 10-12 hours. This does not include time to install engine parts."
Now, let's look at what is in that 500HP kit- ZX-10 Stage III Turbo Kit
Custom Turbonetics turbo with ceramic ball bearings
Blow off valve
45mm wastegate
Stand alone engine management system
650cc fuel injectors
Stainless steel header
Stainless steel dump pipe
Polished plenum chamber
Turbo oil return and pump
Fuel pump and all fittings
Pressure sensing fuel regulator
Boost pressure guage
All necessary hardware
Price $8995.00
What on that list of parts would be considered an "engine part"?
Oh. heavens, does this mean I have to get and install some other stuff besides what comes in that box I'd spend 9 large for? Just as in Casablanca, I'm SHOCKED, just SHOCKED, I say!!!
P.S.- starting out on a project to build a "budget" 200HP Busa that would be everyday street reliable, doing all the assembly myself, I ended up spending what could easily get me 300HP if I'd have just dropped the bike off at a reputable turbo builder's shop. :o
That is no fault of any manufacturers or builders, it's purely a result of my own carelessness and idiocy. I am very pleased with the result.
posted January 02, 2006 09:55 PM
Tinhead, Allow me to clarify. "Engine parts" are things the are INSIDE the engine, namely pistons. If Rob's ZX-10 kit is like the 12 kit (which I've worked with), a competent mechainic with complete hand tools could easily install it in a weekend. And, I mean from sitting there running to sitting there running. It's all there and it all fits the first time.
You want 500 hp? OF COURSE you're going to spend some time fine tuning. OF COURSE you're going to have freshly built the engine with new pistons etc.
But do you want a very ridable 2-300 hp? Spend a couple days with the wrenches and go ride.
Doug
posted January 02, 2006 10:28 PM
Doug, being a pro as you are, you run the risk of getting a bit isolated at times.
How many discussions do you think will happen in high school hallways and study halls about the merits of having an $18K Yamaha R1 LE vs. buying a ZX-10 and Rob's 500HPkit for about the same price?
I remember high school a bit, I'm 53.
There were a lot of 500HP cars some of the kids owned.
"The headers are worth 80HP, the cam is worth 120HP, the pistons are worth 150HP, and it came with 150HP so that all adds up to 500, see?"
Today it would be Yo screw them R1's, dude. Fer the same bux you can build a ZX10 with 500 horses.
I read it in a magazine.......
posted January 03, 2006 08:24 AM
Tinhead,
You were only a couple years behind me and I'm Oh So Familiar with the hallway discussions. But,I have an advantage here. I've seen the bike, extensively ridden the turbo 12's that Rob put together, know very well the guys who design, machine , weld, and wire the bikes. I'm not on the payroll and I hope you can trust that I'd never risk the veracity I'm known for by misrepresenting something. I think this bike will become more visible soon and I'm confident that all the claims will be verified. I'm not so isolated as you might think.
Doug
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posted December 24, 2005 08:15 AM
I would in fact greatly question the ability of any builder using the aforementioned kit to get to 500HP without at least an afternoon of dyno time, I know it would be way beyond me, if that makes me an asshole, so be it.
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Rob .. I was going to ride mine to Starbucks 
