robmuzzy
Expert Class
Posts: 295
|
posted November 10, 2005 08:40 PM
ZX-14 clutch
ZX-14 Clutch is conciderably larger than ZX-12.
  
|
gremlin
Novice Class
Posts: 87
|
posted November 10, 2005 08:50 PM
Rob: With the concerted efforts of manufacturers to reduce size and weight of every component, what are the benefits of increasing the size of the clutch?
|
Road Rage
Expert Class
Posts: 129
|
posted November 10, 2005 10:13 PM
Well for one it would help prevent sliping 'IF' indeed this bike puts out more trq. Also while I'm not sure which year model it was but didn't the ZX-12R have some problems with the clutch self destructing? A buddy I used to ride with had the clutch on his 01' ZX-12R (it was green) fail twice in the first year, though he did ride/launch his bike pretty hard alot.
Phil
|
ZXLNT
Needs a job
Kawpuke Extraordinare
Posts: 2853
|
posted November 10, 2005 10:31 PM
quote:
Rob: With the concerted efforts of manufacturers to reduce size and weight of every component, what are the benefits of increasing the size of the clutch?
The benefits? Lol, The benefits of having a larger clutch is increased power handling and wearability. The ZX12R clutch while having a lot of plates is still too small for the power output. If it were the same as a ZX11 clutch then that would be a good clutch. The ZX11 has a much better clutch set up than the ZX12R ever thought about.. The plates are larger diameter and the steels are much thicker as well..
|
ZXLNT
Needs a job
Kawpuke Extraordinare
Posts: 2853
|
posted November 10, 2005 10:34 PM
quote:
ZX-14 Clutch is conciderably larger than ZX-12.
Rob does that mean you have had your hands ON one allready???? 
|
ryan schnitz
Novice Class
Posts: 63
|
posted November 11, 2005 05:54 AM
Better for Drag Racing too!
|
Zammy
Expert Class
Posts: 411
|
posted November 11, 2005 06:22 AM
Thank God...Rob to the rescue. Now we have something to look at besides pissin' and mounin' and member bashing. I'll be glad when they get the damn thing on the roads. Please, Master Muzzy, keep us informed.
|
robmuzzy
Expert Class
Posts: 295
|
posted November 11, 2005 08:19 AM
Looked at a 14 when I was at KMC. The benefits of the increased clutch diameter are to handle more torque and horsepower.
|
DB
Pro
Posts: 1932
|
posted November 11, 2005 08:56 AM
quote:
Looked at a 14 when I was at KMC. The benefits of the increased clutch diameter are to handle more torque and horsepower
*Wink***Wink****more torque & horsepower**Wink**Wink
____________
Dan
04 ZX10r (Track only)
08 Concours14
|
psycho1122
Pro
Posts: 1608
|
posted November 12, 2005 05:27 AM
190/110
____________
You say PSYCHO like it's a BAD thing!!
|
Rubber Pants
Zone Head
Posts: 798
|
posted November 14, 2005 07:18 PM
quote:
Better for Drag Racing too!
And you should know!!!!!!
CONGRATULATIONS ON YER WIN IN POMONA RYAN!!!
I was there with a bunch O Bums yelling for ya........ Did ya hear us when you were rumblin down the track!??
Man............$7.50 ea for a flippin beer so we had to keep it to a dull ROAR!
____________
"Ya Gotta Have Big Ones!"
speeddemons.com
|
Rubber Pants
Zone Head
Posts: 798
|
posted November 14, 2005 07:29 PM
quote:
ZX-14 Clutch is conciderably larger than ZX-12.
HEY Rob! Ya thinkin about runnin an NHRA ZX14? Or will the rules still favor the V twin Harley situation. That class needs more variety IMHO after being at Pomona. 1 Kaw, a bunch of Suzuki's and now the dominant V Twins.?
They need some serious rule changes to attract more competition and brands.
____________
"Ya Gotta Have Big Ones!"
speeddemons.com
|
krexken
Zone Head
Posts: 732
|
posted November 15, 2005 05:58 PM
Or will the rules still favor the V twin Harley situation. That class needs more variety IMHO after being at Pomona. 1 Kaw, a bunch of Suzuki's and now the dominant V Twins.?
They need some serious rule changes to attract more competition and brands.
Amen to that,brother. Amen.
|
phil
Expert Class
Posts: 420
|
posted November 16, 2005 04:43 PM
Anybody know what the rules say about engine size as far as Vtwins vs the inline 4's ?
____________
"Look at Dad, trying to look young again."
|
trenace
Needs a job
Posts: 3056
|
posted November 16, 2005 04:57 PM
Depending on the particular V-Twin motor, the limit is 160 cubic inches (2621 cc) or 200 cubic inches ((2950 cc).
Versus I think 92 cubic inches for Fours (1508 cc).
However, for 2006, Suzuki -- but not Kawasaki -- will be allowed to go to 1,655cc. Whoopdie-doo!!
|
robmuzzy
Expert Class
Posts: 295
|
posted November 17, 2005 08:12 AM
2006- Inlines 100 ci, 60 degree V-twins 160 ci. Fuel injected and 615 lb. Kawasaki 2 valve-92ci fuel injected, 565 lb. Kawasaki 4 valve 87ci, 565lb.
|
flite leader
Zone Head
Posts: 651
|
posted November 25, 2005 08:07 AM
physics dictate that a smaller diameter clutch will
spin up & accelerate faster than a larger diameter
with multi plates addl plates help to an extent
a lot of deference is given to the overall markey
of everyday riders
NOT the various & minute performance riders
otherwise performance set ups like those by
porsche.... ferrari & even many nascar teams would prevail
Except ......!!!!!!!!!!
they would have little favor with the overall market
the everyday rider tyhgat likes the eaase & convenience
provided by an already sorted out existing system
____________
bend your mind.....
or break your ass...!!
|
trenace
Needs a job
Posts: 3056
|
posted November 25, 2005 10:50 AM
quote:
2006- Inlines 100 ci, 60 degree V-twins 160 ci. Fuel injected and 615 lb. Kawasaki 2 valve-92ci fuel injected, 565 lb. Kawasaki 4 valve 87ci, 565lb.
Yes, we all know, it's thoroughly established, that for a two-cylinder motor to match up fairly with a four-cylinder, the two-cylinder needs almost twice the displacement, e.g. 160 ci vs 87 ci. 
|
|
|
HOME
NEW TOPIC