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posted January 02, 2009 05:43 PM        Edited By: frEEk on 4 Jan 2009 17:20
Chilly Southern California Prepares for 2009 Supercross at Angel Stadium

In the pre-race press conference in Anaheim, California Monster Energy AMA Supercross an FIM World Championship (wow, can that title be any longer?) riders faced the press to answer questions about a series that lacked some luster in 2008. The ’08 season saw the absence of ultra fast, crowd favorite James Stewart as well as the vacuum left by former Champion Ricky Carmichael.

2009 sees several changes, including Kawasaki’s Ryan Villopoto stepping up to the 450 class. For ’09 we finally see the return of James Stewart, this time on a Yamaha – a change he told everyone at the press conference is for the better. Chad Reed, who had the 2008 Championship ‘handed to him’ with the departure of Carmichael and Stewart moves to Suzuki, bringing his #1 plate along for the ride. Hard working all around nice guy Kevin Windham remains with Honda.

The Monster Energy AMA Supercross an FIM World Championship series kicks off at Angel Stadium, Saturday January 3rd, and should provide some excitement with four top riders in the game.


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posted January 03, 2009 08:16 AM        Edited By: Shep on 3 Jan 2009 19:06
Looks like we are getting some rain. Yeah, a little mud, some new faces, some new teams, this should be a great race!!! Go Villopoto!!!
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posted January 04, 2009 03:09 PM        
Just a question here. What is with the "Reed takes out Stewart" headline on the supercross coverage? The tv coverage I watched showed two riders getting together and both falling. I didn't see a deliberate take out like you would see with an aggresive block pass in the corners.
Why the headline?

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posted January 05, 2009 09:26 AM        
I doubt it was deliberate. From what I saw Reed ran into Stewerts back wheel. I don't know anyone who would run their front wheel into another bike on purpose. That usually results in a crash, but it looked like Reed hit Stewert from the side not directly behind. On the other hand I also heard Stewert missed a gear coming out of that corner so Reed came up on him too fast.
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posted January 05, 2009 09:36 AM        
Had nothing to do with Reed. Stewart made a mistake. Bogged and/or missed a shift. Reed had nowhere to go. Just a racing accident. But if blame is anywhere, it was Stewart. Which he admitted. Thatz racing. On to the next round.
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posted January 05, 2009 07:07 PM        
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Had nothing to do with Reed. .


it didn't? looked like reed ran up on him to me!
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posted January 06, 2009 09:39 AM        
From purely a "racing" standpoint - It was not Reed's fault. He had nowhere to go.
Example - If it was Roadracing and Rossi missed a shift while Hayden was drafting or directly behind him, in a corner, etc. and ran into him. As a racer, you'd say that was Rossi's fault. But I would also think you would agree that it was simply a racing accident and really nobodys fault. Shit happens.... Let's move onto the next round.

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posted January 06, 2009 09:20 PM        
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From purely a "racing" standpoint - It was not Reed's fault. He had nowhere to go.
Example - If it was Roadracing and Rossi missed a shift while Hayden was drafting or directly behind him, in a corner, etc. and ran into him. As a racer, you'd say that was Rossi's fault. But I would also think you would agree that it was simply a racing accident and really nobodys fault. Shit happens.... Let's move onto the next round.



I think the only person who suggested that it was anything more than an accident was the fellow who started this topic!

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posted January 06, 2009 10:09 PM        
To Staff,
my question was simply why the coverage of the Supercross carried the headline "Reed takes out Stewart"?
To my way of thinking "takes out" implies something deliberate.
Was that the intention of the staffer who wrote the headline of the article?
I agree with the comments made, it was a racing, plain and simple.
My only question was why the headline tried to make it something more.

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posted January 07, 2009 08:39 AM        
Most people may think that being "taken out" in racing vernacular would mean on purpose. I take it more as a generic term that we all use and can go either way (on purpose or simply a racing incident). Doesn't necessarily mean it was done deliberately. You have to try and read between the lines (so to speak).
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posted January 07, 2009 06:03 PM        
how do we know it wasn't on purpose? there's been tons of talk about how James is going to be "getting taken out" ....
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posted January 07, 2009 10:01 PM        
Oh, so you wrote the headline.
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posted January 08, 2009 09:57 AM        
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how do we know it wasn't on purpose? there's been tons of talk about how James is going to be "getting taken out" ....


Well of course Chad would be the only one who really knows for sure. But common sense appears to show he had nowhere to go. I would also think from a racer's point of view, there are way more "safe" areas to take someone out (ie: going inside into a berm, brake checking, etc..). Most upper level racers are probably guilty of that at one time or another...

But come on, I don't see Chad doing something like this. He's been injured enough to not risk a move like this at the first round. And it was very clear that James bogged out of the turn. At this level, these guys fire off out of the turns and/or berms at incrediable pace. I don't see him having many options in the split second this happened. Now when the championship is on the line later on in the season, all bets would be off.


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posted January 08, 2009 07:15 PM        
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Oh, so you wrote the headline.


I didn't say that - I just pointed out that there was a lot of chatter about taking him out before the race
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