posted January 07, 2009 10:14 AM
I was on vacation for a couple of weeks...
I double checked the Dec. Cycle World and 174.3 HP is the corrected number they got on their dyno.
A separate dyno test posted on the Star Vmax forum came within 1 or 2 HP of 174.
The problem here is I dynoed my own car on two different dynos and came up with a corrected difference of about 20%. MPH in the 1/4 mile is a much more accurate method of determining true HP. Cycle World didn't list the test weight so that would only be a guess.
posted January 07, 2009 11:15 AM
wait till spring and all the bike stores doing there dyno shootouts/BBQ's and I'll find out first hand how they compare against my zx14. Its only a number, but when you're talking engines those numbers are all you got to go by.
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posted January 08, 2009 04:05 AM
From the vids I've seen it looks like a lotta fun But it won't begin to compare to that turbo 14 you're cooking up in the garage Blue lol
BTW, Aprils coming fast.............gitrdone
posted January 08, 2009 08:51 AM
It's not a fucking cruiser either though. It was a stretch trying to call the original vmax a cruiser. It was really a UJM on roids. The new max is in the same class with some heavy hitters. MV Brutale, Aprilia Tuono, Triumph Speed triple, Suzuki B-king, and now the Ducati Street fighter. Anything that gets 20mpg and has a tiny tank isn't meant to be a cruiser lol. V-rod, m109r, rocket3, Vulcan 2000, Raider... those are cruisers.
Really what it boils down to is that the only class that the new VMAX really falls into is VMAX. Compare it to the old ones or itself... but that's about it. I'll take on all challengers who want to compare it to my bike though .
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posted January 08, 2009 11:08 PM
WE DYNOED AN 09 ZX14 today at CARPENTER RACING made 162hp 98TQ and one of our freinds with an 09 VMAX got 39mpg cruising made 184HP and 118TQ both bikes are stock We did a ROCKET3 HEAD,CAMS,PISTONS,PIPE 236HP and 186TQ now thats a cruiser or should I say BRUISER
posted January 09, 2009 06:14 AM
With 236hp you might actually get the rocket 3 to look at mid-low 10's. Isn't it amazing to see a bike with so much less hp walk all over those other two? If it makes you feel better, my buddies 182hp k8 busa runs 6.0's with a da of 4500... bazzaz zafm is a beautiful thing! All you have to do is put it in learn mode for a couple of passes, tell it your target afr and hit correct. Pow... instant 3 tenths of a second better over his track map.
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posted January 09, 2009 07:57 AM
Edited By: smokinZX14 on 9 Jan 2009 16:04
quote:WE DYNOED AN 09 ZX14 today at CARPENTER RACING made 162hp 98TQ and one of our freinds with an 09 VMAX got 39mpg cruising made 184HP and 118TQ both bikes are stock We did a ROCKET3 HEAD,CAMS,PISTONS,PIPE 236HP and 186TQ now thats a cruiser or should I say BRUISER
IMFASTTOO you post WE at CARPENTER RACING , so i take it you work for Carpenter ? Does Bob know you post here at Bikeland ? I'm betting if Bob saw what your are posting here he would tell you to stop..Your posts make Carpenters look bad .. Your posts are very child like , i'm thinking you are about 16 or 17 years old and if you work for Bob you mostlikely clean floors and bathrooms ..I also believe you are changing the HP numbers to make the Vmax look better than it really is .... We all know the new Vmax HP at the crank is 197 ( Yamahas Numbers) and we know the drive shaft robs more HP than a chain drive , so no way it it going to make 184 HP at the tire without pipe and tunning ... Dyno numbers from other shops for the 09 Vmax are closer to 171 HP at the rear wheel ... 171 hp numbers are more in line than this made up 184 HP numbers you are trying to sell us ..
I will buy the 162 hp number for the 09 zx14 and then add in ram air and you get close to 172 HP.. Either way 162 for the zx14 Vs 171 HP for the Vmax the Vmax still is not going to beat up a zx14 with the Vmax weighing in at 701 pounds.. Try all you want you can't over come the weight and the fact the Vmax is as aerodynamic as a brick..
Is the Vmax a cool bike ? Yes it is and if i had some extra cash (18k plus) i would like to have one myself ..
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posted January 09, 2009 10:55 AM
WELL SMOKIN I do work at CARPENTERS and have been freinds with BOB for over 30 years and we dont have to change any dyno results to impress you we dont sell YAMAHAS we are posting true numbers so you guys can do your calculations instead of guessing sorry you dont like the results as you know we offer engine packages for the ZX14, BUSA, GSXR !000, R1, ZX10, TRIUMPH ROCKET 3 and we will be doing the 09 VMAX soon BOB asked me to post the numbers these are results from the same DYNO and the real truth is the VMAX makes more power but is heavy WE have some new ZX14 parts coming out soon and will keep you posted
posted January 09, 2009 11:51 AM
Edited By: Sticks_n_Stones on 9 Jan 2009 19:52
Jesus IMFASTTOO, you really gotta pull that Used Car Salesman out of your ass. Your blatant attempt to advertise for your shop as you argue tells all of us all we need to know about you.
Do yourself a favor and stop trying to think two steps ahead of yourself while you are typing. You suck at it, and it shows in your text.
FYI most of us here, including myself, could care less if the Vmax makes more power on a dyno. Good for it, and good for Yamaha. Especially since that would force Suzuki and Kawi to give the Busa and 14 a R E A L upgrade so that the liter bikes will not be matching them anymore. Hopefully they will knock off 50 or 60 pounds while they are at it...
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quote: WELL SMOKIN I do work at CARPENTERS and have been freinds with BOB for over 30 years and we dont have to change any dyno results to impress you we dont sell YAMAHAS we are posting true numbers so you guys can do your calculations instead of guessing sorry you dont like the results as you know we offer engine packages for the ZX14, BUSA, GSXR !000, R1, ZX10, TRIUMPH ROCKET 3 and we will be doing the 09 VMAX soon BOB asked me to post the numbers these are results from the same DYNO and the real truth is the VMAX makes more power but is heavy WE have some new ZX14 parts coming out soon and will keep you posted
OK i get it , you are here just to spread spam ... We don't like spam ...
We all know Carpenter builds great motors and makes great HP .We would love to have him here to give us the latest greatest go fast parts for the zx14 .. Tell Bob that he should become a sponsor here at Bikeland that way he would not have to send a very bad saleman ( you ) here to spam us ..To put it nicely your posts just plain SUCK...
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posted January 09, 2009 01:00 PM
This thread is starting to go the way I had hoped. From his name alone I knew he was a POS and the posts only confirmed it.
See ya later, BITCH!
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quote:WE DYNOED AN 09 ZX14 today at CARPENTER RACING made 162hp 98TQ and one of our freinds with an 09 VMAX got 39mpg cruising made 184HP and 118TQ both bikes are stock We did a ROCKET3 HEAD,CAMS,PISTONS,PIPE 236HP and 186TQ now thats a cruiser or should I say BRUISER
Thanks for the input.... appreciate that your sharing information with the forum.
Kevin
posted January 10, 2009 02:16 AM
Edited By: Bad in Black on 10 Jan 2009 10:32
quote:WE DYNOED AN 09 ZX14 today at CARPENTER RACING made 162hp 98TQ and one of our freinds with an 09 VMAX got 39mpg cruising made 184HP and 118TQ both bikes are stock We did a ROCKET3 HEAD,CAMS,PISTONS,PIPE 236HP and 186TQ now thats a cruiser or should I say BRUISER
Yeah like Smokin' said alot more politely.................you're fulla shit
Maybe somebody oughta call Carpenters up and let them know how you "claim" to be representing him on Bikeland? I'm sure he'd like the way his "claimed" employee is making him look with all your easily seen through BS. Whats the shops number again? And which employee are you? And wheres the proof of these "numbers" Bob wanted you to post for the shop? I'm sure a well known shop like his would like to "prove" what you're saying, so folks know what the shops really all about right?
Well lookey here....I seem to have found the number for Carpenter Racing myself , its 856-753-1555 if anybodies interested What was your name again Imfullashit2?
Heres the website link http://www.carpenterracing.com/index.htm its odd I don't see a single dyno sheet anywhere on the site?.......hmmm. You'd think if he had a peon like you throwing numbers around a forum he'd have something posted on the site?? LOL
I think I'll call them monday. What was your name again??
posted January 10, 2009 04:16 PM
Edited By: Shane661 on 11 Jan 2009 00:17
Got some pics today at the International Motorcycle Show. This is my first time seeing the bikes in person. Very nice, and not as huge in person as it looks in the pictures.
I took some shots of some stock parts, and pics from the custom bike:
I noticed that the custom bike had a 240 tire on it. It also appeared to be offset to one side of the bike about 1/2". The mufflers on that bike were modified nicely, and the control were very nice as well.
posted January 10, 2009 09:30 PM
Very cool ...Thanks Shane for the pictures ....
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posted January 10, 2009 09:42 PM
im fast kind of reminds me of that guy that used to work for muzzy that was doing the henchman thing, then oops you work where?
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posted January 11, 2009 05:41 PM
quote:WE DYNOED AN 09 ZX14 today at CARPENTER RACING made 162hp 98TQ and one of our freinds with an 09 VMAX got 39mpg cruising made 184HP and 118TQ both bikes are stock We did a ROCKET3 HEAD,CAMS,PISTONS,PIPE 236HP and 186TQ now thats a cruiser or should I say BRUISER
...really?....my bone-stock '00 ZX-12R w/2000 miles on the clock was dyno'd at sea level and it pulled 162hp/96tq numbers...wow
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posted January 11, 2009 05:56 PM
quote:2009 Yamaha VMX17 VMAX Intake System Testing
2009 Yamaha VMX17 VMax Speed Simulation
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posted January 14, 2009 04:38 PM
I have a new MAX in the shop and it is great bike,rolling burnouts will keep you
laughing all day.But trying to compare the new MAX to sportbike is silly.
I own several sportbikes and love them,the MAX is not a sportbike.
It is sold as a STAR power cruiser check the website.If you look at the bike
for 10 seconds you will see racing was not the goal. The bike is 700 lbs wet and
has shaft drive,and as smokin says aerodynamics of locomotive.
Guys if you want to race, buy a race bike!!
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posted January 07, 2009 10:14 AM
But it won't begin to compare to that turbo 14 you're cooking up in the garage Blue lol 
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