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posted January 24, 2008 10:01 AM
 Edited By: Sticks_n_Stones on 24 Jan 2008 10:08
Cycle World - 2008 R6 versus CBR
Well, its that time of year again, and Cycle World has there results in:
The Honda wins both the track AND street sections of the test! Here is the stats:
Honda numbers and quotes:
Weight: 384 (dry)
0-60: 2.9 sec.
1/4: 10.58
HP/TQ: 104.7 hp/ 43.8 tq
Ups: Featherweight feel
Heavyweight punch
Excellent ergos
Downs: New turnsignals, please!
Street comfort slightly compromises -
cornering clearance on-track.
Total lack of underseat storage.
Yamaha numbers and quotes:
Weight: 402 (dry)
0-60: 3.3 sec
1/4: 10.99
HP/TQ: 107.7 hp/ 42.5 tq
Ups: Fab front-end feel.
Slick-shifting tranny.
Improved midrange.
Downs: Midrange still lacking.
Front brake needs more bite.
8-grand getaways get old.
Important quotes:
" On the track, front-end feel is a key to a quick lap, and this is an area where the R6 absolutely shines.... From the turn-in point to the apex of the corner, the Yamaha's precise steering, inch-shorter wheelbase and smoother transition from braking to full lean (aided by the excellent slipper clutch) were its strong points.
On the other side of the apex is where the RR gets the kudos. Front-end feel isnt as confidence-inspiring, but once you stretch the chain and transfer weight to the rear end the Honda's plush shock communicates what the rear tire is doing better than the R6, giving the rider the go-ahead to whackthe throttle WFO and utilize the RR's superior midrange power on exit. No matter how early you get on the gas, the Yamaha won't make up for its power deficit compared to the new CBR."
"... the two bikes aren't far apart on the track. It ws here that the two surprised us by running outright lap times much closer than expected: the fastest lap time of each was only seperated by 8/100ths (!) of a second, the nod going to the Honda.... a similar pace can be conjured up on the Yami: it's just busier and requires more corner speed."
"Honda has found exactly the right balance between road and track with the RR. Not only does it weigh 18 pounds less than the R6 but it makes more horsepower and torque everywhere in the rev range except briefly at above 14,000 rpm.... at 9000 rpm, right in the meat of what is considered mid-range, the CBR makes a whopping 13 more hp and almost 8 foot-pounds more torque."
"As the defending champ in this category, the Honda would have to be beaten thoroughly not to retain its crown. That didnt happen. Not only did the RR surpprise us by just edging out the R6 on track, its street manners, daily livability and stout power delivery assure that the CBR still has Yamaha's number."
OK, Steve, you can now crow about Honda's again...
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posted January 24, 2008 10:03 AM
Edited By: Sticks_n_Stones on 24 Jan 2008 10:03
fixing the stupid numbers... wont post the way it was supposed to...
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posted January 24, 2008 12:00 PM
lmao!
 HONDA CBR
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posted January 24, 2008 01:07 PM
Honda is gay.....
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posted January 25, 2008 08:07 AM
Well the wife will be happy with her CBR600RR choice
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posted January 27, 2008 04:26 PM
HONDA CBR
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posted January 27, 2008 08:53 PM
quote:
HONDA CBR
+1
 HONDA
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posted January 28, 2008 11:14 AM
quote:
quote:
HONDA CBR
+1
HONDA
Typical Honda lover.... has to have guys bending over in front of him... 
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posted January 28, 2008 10:32 PM
wait a sec....I love the Yami too!
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posted January 29, 2008 12:34 PM
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wait a sec....I love the Yami too!
typical Yami owner, has to have guys or girls bending over in front of him...
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posted January 29, 2008 06:53 PM
Edited By: stevewfl on 29 Jan 2008 18:55
 I'm a HONDA owner too, between those two brands EVERYONE bows, bish!!!
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posted January 30, 2008 08:02 AM
lol just admit you made a mistake getting rid of your mancard - err, ZX-14 Steve. It took alot of balls to step from a fairly rare bike with a very loyal following like the 14 to that R-1 that you know all the guys you used hang with make fun of. Now you have a WHOLE BUNCH of guys with exactly the same bike as you to hang out with in the parking lots.
I'll pull the knife outta your back if you promise to never call me a "Bish" again. lol
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posted January 30, 2008 02:58 PM
lol just admit you made a mistake getting rid of your mancard - err, ZX-14 Steve. <---dude if that was a mistake I'd have another in the garage! I've always been the track weapon type, actually 600's are what I most enjoy. but i did enjoy that big beast ZX14!!!
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posted January 31, 2008 07:00 AM
Yeah I know Steve, just , umm, making sure you were sure of your decision. 
I do respect the fact that you know what you want, yet are still willing to try everything else out. Kudos
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posted February 02, 2008 01:04 PM
quote:
Yeah I know Steve, just , umm, making sure you were sure of your decision.
I do respect the fact that you know what you want, yet are still willing to try everything else out. Kudos
correction......try everything I want meaning "I wish I could AFFORD to try everything"
Ya I love all the brands brutha man, and its been nice in life to try different stuff :P
My eye is on that DUC 848 in WHITE!
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posted February 04, 2008 10:40 AM
Slow down Has, have you even ridden the 1098 yet??? Or the 675 Daytona? There is other breakthrough bikes out there that gotta come first! lol
I do see you liking that 675 the best, though. Total track tool, right?
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posted February 05, 2008 10:41 PM
ya that 675 is awesome !~
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