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beansbaxter


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posted October 02, 2005 01:35 PM        
Confederate B91...if only I had the $

I love this bike.



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trenace


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posted October 02, 2005 01:41 PM        
The guy who designed it described, named, and emphasized-to-death himself as an "artist" about 30 different times in one article on this bike (the only article I read in which he was interviewed.)

Hmmm, I'd always found that real artists didn't find a need to say so so repeatedly or even, usually, at all.

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beansbaxter


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posted October 02, 2005 01:46 PM        
It looks like riding a gorilla.



It does look pretty cool though.

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trenace


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posted October 02, 2005 01:53 PM        Edited By: trenace on 2 Oct 2005 15:05
The thing I find interesting about it is the openly mechanical cluttered appearance from the right side view. However, that's much better done (IMO) with a vintage bike or one of the handmade modern bikes made like the vintage ones.

An "artist" doing it today (probably more out of mechanical incompetence in getting stuff to work uncluttered, but let's assume it was deliberate) to me is somewhat like (what a reference this is to make, but hey the guy insists he's an artist) what Mozart had to say about KPE Bach, a pre-eminent composer of the previous generation, "We are no longer able to do as he did, but at what he did, he was unsurpassed."

The point being, given things were art in their day, but in one's own day they are out of place. Mozart learned a great deal from KPE Bach in terms of music theory, but you do not hear KPE Bach in Mozart's work.

So at first glance and the first moment the clutter is interesting to me, but after that it just appears incompetent (as an entirely personal opinion no better than any other, for sure.)

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Evander


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posted October 02, 2005 06:15 PM        
You want art or a bike? My boss has the Hellcat and is on the short list for the Wrath. Another co-worker rode the HC and said it rides like a jackhammer. I met the designer at the Rock Store last year he was trying to get Jay Leno to by one. After the guy left Jay made the comment "I'd like my fillings to stay in my mouth." If you want a garage ornament that's cool, but if you want a "different" bike to ride there are better ones out there.
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trenace


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posted October 02, 2005 07:44 PM        
Myself I don't think it's art OR a bike.

By referring to how many times the designer called himself an "artist," I didn't mean to give the impression that I think he is one. Only that he is desperate to persuade people he is.

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