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eastbaydave


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posted September 08, 2005 06:57 AM        
KAW revised tach for 06'



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frEEk


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posted September 08, 2005 10:28 AM        
i'm still concerned about how visable that needle is gonna be tho.
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swft


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posted September 08, 2005 07:19 PM        
maybe you should buy one and give us a report??
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frEEk


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posted September 09, 2005 03:09 PM        
yeah, that'll happen.
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swft


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posted September 09, 2005 03:34 PM        
Then why the hell should you be concerned?

Things I'm not concerned about:

The shape of the emergency brake lever in the new Ford F150.

The color of wire used for the tach signal in the 2006 Chevy Lumina.

Etc., etc....
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frEEk


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posted September 09, 2005 03:39 PM        
because i am the omniscient one, therefore i must be concerned about all (and don't get all technical aabout how if i'm omniscient then i would already know how visible the needle is)
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swft


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posted September 09, 2005 03:40 PM        
lol...
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posted September 09, 2005 08:02 PM        
...a step in the right direction...now make the tach face flash progessively a rider-selected color of his/her choice as the tach needle angrily approaches the rider-selected red-line, then remain steady-state for as long as the needle stays past that zone...c'mon Kawasaki!....you can do it!...you know that you want to do it!
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posted September 10, 2005 12:40 AM        
quote:
...a step in the right direction...now make the tach face flash progessively a rider-selected color of his/her choice as the tach needle angrily approaches the rider-selected red-line, then remain steady-state for as long as the needle stays past that zone...c'mon Kawasaki!....you can do it!...you know that you want to do it!


haha yeah that is a good idea, especially if Pioneer can take a deck and make chameleon colors from their faceplate haha....

maybe kawi will listen, since i personally feel it was nano and i who gave them the idea of the magma red...

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trenace


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posted September 10, 2005 01:01 AM        
That seems like a pretty good idea.

For example, say, grey till 7000, blue fom there to 8000, green till 9000, yellow till 10,000, orange till 12,000, red at 12000 and up. Either incrementally or as a smooth progression. Or with whatever values you programmed it to. Not necessarily flashing, could be steady though changing hue with the rpm.




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posted September 16, 2005 01:27 AM        Edited By: lizard on 16 Sep 2005 02:30
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Then why the hell should you be concerned?

Things I'm not concerned about:

The shape of the emergency brake lever in the new Ford F150.

The color of wire used for the tach signal in the 2006 Chevy Lumina.

Etc., etc....



2006 Chevy Lumina? DISCONTINUED.

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Evander


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posted September 17, 2005 09:43 AM        
Am I the only one here that shifts by sound?
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Dave Bogue


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posted September 23, 2005 09:53 AM        
I assume the tach face above is from the ZX-10R. A very functional design: analogue tachometer, digital speedometer. The power peak on the tach should read at 12:00 IMO.

Of interest is that Kawasaki Motor Company's new flagship, the earthshaking ZX-14, still retains the antiquated analogue speedometer: the faster you go, the harder to read. You can only cram so many numbers in a circular speedometer and KMC has done their damnest.

Well, it was good enough for Grandad's Buick.

Yes I know that you guys under 45 years old may be able to actually read those little numbers, but the playing field evens out once you climb past triple "digit" MPH because when you're flying down the road with the throttle pinned at some point it becomes less than prudent to take the time to stare at the the speedo face. Reading MPH on a digital speedo entails a quick glance at any speed this side of the 6th gear rev limiter. Safety first!

I rest my case.

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trenace


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posted September 23, 2005 01:04 PM        
I disagree on reading speed... it is much faster (and requires less directed vision) to pick up the general angle of a needle than it does to read two or three numbers.

What you're talking about, cramming numbers on the face, implies taking the time and visual focus to also read the numbers on the dial. That isn't necessary, or should not be once having familiarity with it.

To me numbers are absolutely not as fast. Further they require mental processing in a way that a needle does not, and also don't integrate with "feel" as well as analogue position (the angle of a needle for example) does.

In other words you have to think, however briefly, that "153" is faster than "135" and apply cognition as to how much faster that is and what the significance is... however the needle being bent over that much further, instantly conveys that feeling.

Not that one should really ride by the speedo anyway other than out of law enforcement concerns, but where one does want to pick up speed or rpm, I disagree, needle angle is faster and better than digital numerals. However, as also stated above, fastest of all is a light; and the suggestion of a light progression that would enable to one to have a feel for the exact instant the shift point is going to arrive, as opposed to "has arrived," could be a good thing, though exhaust pitch does largely the same thing but not with the absolute precision that would be possible with that method, plus all do not have perfect pitch.

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chriscollins


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posted September 28, 2005 10:43 AM        
I think its a great improvement its although i really shift by feel when im getting on it it was hard to get used to the tach on my 04zx10 i hope this thing will retro fit my bike does anyboby know?
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