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posted April 08, 2008 06:31 PM
 Edited By: zxhoya on 8 Apr 2008 19:32
Area P exhaust for the '08 CBR!
What do you think? Kind of funky looking, but it saves 9.5 lbs on an already light bike.
The ZX-10's slip-on only saves 6.5 lbs.
http://www.areapnolimits.com/products/Slip-On-Exhaust-Honda-CBR1000RR-2008.php
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posted April 08, 2008 06:36 PM
Edited By: zxhoya on 8 Apr 2008 19:39
'08 CBR1000RR
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posted April 08, 2008 06:45 PM
Edited By: zxhoya on 8 Apr 2008 19:46
The stock ZX-10R has more hp than the CBR1000 with slip-on but it has tq advantage.
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posted April 09, 2008 04:17 AM
Edited By: ricksgsxr on 9 Apr 2008 05:19
The SS looks better of the two. Not feeling the large, round/slightly oval design of the end can.
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posted April 09, 2008 07:17 AM
who cares about looks of the exhaust when looking at the weight loss and dyno charts you posted
"The stock ZX-10R has more hp than the CBR1000 with slip-on but it has tq advantage." <--zxhoyoa, I've been hearing the Honda has been winning the midrange and up rollons on many track comparisons, did you mean the Honda has the tq advantage?
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posted April 09, 2008 07:49 AM
Yes, I meant the CBR has the clear advantage in the tq department. Honda, by all reports (and I do mean all reports), has built the best litre bike to date with Kawasaki a half step behind, maybe. Give me the ZX-10 for all the reasons I love Kaw's.
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posted April 09, 2008 08:25 AM
We actually did prototype it with a smaller (ie: different size muffler shell). The issue was that the sound level was way too loud. It uses a large diameter stepped (3 x) mid-pipe, into the short muffler, with a large core. Sounds great, very deep, but it's on the louder side of things. So we decided to stick with a larger volume muffler to help attenuate the sound level over a longer duration.
The oem muffler is huge and amazingly heavy. It does work well. But since we are removing a really large volume assembly and exhaust valve, the sound is definetly elevated.
Anyway, I probably have spent more time than most with previous gen 04-07 models. Everything from stockers, superstocks, and HRC Works Superbikes. The '08 is really a cool overall package and a welcome change from previous models.
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posted April 09, 2008 09:01 AM
KB, if you could only choose one to own for yourself, blindfolded, no way of knowing who built either bike, which one would it be?
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posted April 09, 2008 10:23 AM
Oh man. Tough question.... I have great relationships with all the OEMs, but especially so with those two. So.... I would love to own both of them. Actually, I love all the open class bikes from MV, Ducati, Aprilla, and the big four. Just not a fair question..... What was the question?......
My opinion would be somewhat biased because of the way I like bikes to respond. I am more comfortable with a bike that is a little loose, with a really strong, peaky powerband. That's the kind of "feedback" that I can go the quickest on and maintain a given pace. Having ridden the Honda, i just don't see any flaws. It's very electric and precise. It's a very sweet package. Having ridden the 10, it more closely suits my style. If I was blindfolded, it would probably be the 10 based on feel. It revs much higher and I like to use the soft limiter on the track instead of grabbing another gear. It may not have anything at all to do with the lap times and/or pace. They may very well be the same. It's just the comfort level to maintain that pace. Can't see anyone going wrong choosing either one.
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posted April 09, 2008 10:45 AM
Edited By: zxhoya on 9 Apr 2008 11:46
Thanks for the response KB. Not having ridden any of the 4 litre bikes, I agree with you on what I like, a nice revvy, strong motor. Your response mimics every review of the '08's that I have read to date. The Honda must be ''electric and precise'' for every tester to have basically the same opinion of it, a great bike that does everything well that is easy to ride fast, but for me the ZX-10 sounds like it excites and even scares a little, that's what I want from my litre bike.
Props to Honda and Kawasaki for continuing to push the bar forward.
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posted April 09, 2008 12:01 PM
I like the little can.
It may be simply that it looks very different from anything else I've seen on the market.
I'm not a brand loyal type...I've owned at least two of each of the Japanese four, with a Bimota thrown in for good measure.
This CBR is looking like a very sweet ride...I may wait to see about a left-over in the autumn.
As an aside, Kerry you seem like a total stand-up guy. Refreshingly low on hype, and always tactful.
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posted April 09, 2008 03:38 PM
''As an aside, Kerry you seem like a total stand-up guy. Refreshingly low on hype, and always tactful''
+1
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posted April 12, 2008 07:50 AM
My buddy here just pulled 159 at the wheel last weekend on the dyno on his STOCK '07 ZX10. I pulled 169 on my STOCK '08 14. We're anxious to add lots of goodies this summer. 
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posted April 12, 2008 09:37 PM
quote:
Yes, I meant the CBR has the clear advantage in the tq department. Honda, by all reports (and I do mean all reports), has built the best litre bike to date with Kawasaki a half step behind, maybe. Give me the ZX-10 for all the reasons I love Kaw's.
What do you call best? Best-all rounder? THen yes.
Fastest? NO.
Most Powerfull? NO.
My personal 2008 report: Kawi is better. How do you like this "report"? 
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posted April 13, 2008 03:46 AM
I like your report best YZF. I was trying not to look like a total homer for Kaw when I wrote that. Yes, the 2008 ZX-10R is the best litre bike EVER!
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