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posted November 05, 2006 01:21 PM
Thanks BD, glad you clearified the correct year model 636 MC, there is an '04 on eBay right now for $69.99 that I was wondering about. If I can find a deal on one I'll make the switch. I've seen a few over on .net for cheap, but they go pretty fast. I'll keep my eyes peeled for one, I've got a few months to shop smart.
Oh yeah, I got the decals from Jedwin...........schweet!!!!!!!!!! thanks.......
I may fire you an e-mail for some pics. Chris sent me a pic of his setup with the 2 line spielger kit and I like it.
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posted November 06, 2006 10:53 AM
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I find this quite interesting as I have the stock MC, Spiegler lines and Carbon Lorraine pads and have had no issues at all with stopping power on the track. Now, granted that running 1:33's at Grattan and 1:45's at MidOhio are not Superbike times by any stretch but I can tell you that with my setup I'm hauling down from the high 160's on the backstretch at Mid-Ohio starting at the #3 brake marker with no problems. Quite frankly if my current set up has me not even worrying about whether or not I can stop in time, then I'm not changing anything just cause you all are so fast you overwhelm them. And funny how I met and spoke with a fella at Mid-Ohio that had Galfer lines and I don't know what pads, but a stock MC on his 10 and he was running 1:30-1:31's there. I would have to say if he can run those times at Mid-Ohio with the stock MC and has no worries then you are all talking out of your ass about the stock MC not cutting it. IMHO of course.
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posted November 06, 2006 11:22 AM
Hard Laps at the GAP will have the lever at the BAR everytime...
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posted November 06, 2006 11:34 AM
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I find this quite interesting as I have the stock MC, Spiegler lines and Carbon Lorraine pads and have had no issues at all with stopping power on the track. Now, granted that running 1:33's at Grattan and 1:45's at MidOhio are not Superbike times by any stretch but I can tell you that with my setup I'm hauling down from the high 160's on the backstretch at Mid-Ohio starting at the #3 brake marker with no problems. Quite frankly if my current set up has me not even worrying about whether or not I can stop in time, then I'm not changing anything just cause you all are so fast you overwhelm them. And funny how I met and spoke with a fella at Mid-Ohio that had Galfer lines and I don't know what pads, but a stock MC on his 10 and he was running 1:30-1:31's there. I would have to say if he can run those times at Mid-Ohio with the stock MC and has no worries then you are all talking out of your ass about the stock MC not cutting it. IMHO of course.
now now don't be so hasty about our asses and where we speak from. Otis i have heard statements/experiences like yours from others just like i've heard statements/experiences like my own as well as others that had lever fade with repeated heavy braking situations not just one or a couple per lap but each successive turn so it would seem the experiences be they good or bad are based or should be based on a case by case situation as we are dealing with massed produced parts subject to variables in the production process. So Otis apply this to your IMHO and see if it fits better.
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posted November 06, 2006 11:53 AM
LOL, point well taken Big Daddy, touche'. All I know is I am prefectly happy with my set up and I advised Rick to not spend money on a new MC until he's had a chance to ride with the lines and better pads. If he finds he still is lacking, then sure, go ahead. I'm just giving the straight scoop from my own experiences.
And Gunner if I ever had a lever go to the bar, I'd be all over changing stuff. But after 30 minutes straight hard laps on the track I had plently of feel and stopping power on hand. And that was at a much much faster pace then I'd ever ridden the Gap before.
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posted November 06, 2006 12:00 PM
Otis you gave to correct advise for sure so no worries mate. Spend as little or much as possible to satisfy ones taste.
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posted November 06, 2006 12:02 PM
Quite frankly, I think all you bitches are smokin' da pipe. 
It's comments like gunner's that scare me. No brakes at the gap = a crash.
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posted November 06, 2006 12:12 PM
Otis.................If you ride the gap HARD NO track in the world can compete with the amount of brakes required for a single lap.. There's ZERO time for them to rest up there.. Sure some people don't have problems with there brakes up there at all, BUT on the 10r speeds way over a hundred are very easy to reach and as you know there's NOT a corner up there that can handle those speeds so BRAKES are really abused.. Rick is right NO BRAKES AT THE GAP = Flying leap or sudden stop into a tree.. It's no track for sure.. I know you know these things and I'm not even suggesting you don't know the GAP.. It takes superb brakes up there to go fast.... AND a sixth sence of traction..
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posted November 06, 2006 12:19 PM
I agree with you about riding the Gap but can't speak for what my 10 brakes will do for me there until next May. And quite frankly I've always liked running the Gap barely using the brakes. Yeah, I could pour on the gas full throttle on every little straight and brake hard before the next turn, but the Gap isn't the track and I've always approacehd riding there with the thrill of the corners, not the speed on the straights. I can remember many many runs with Rick and Harry and Mark Day where we'd power through the turns and keep her steady down the straights, no brakes, or maybe a little trail braking to correct a line. On the track though it's a different story, you need to be going as fast as possible on every single foot of the pavement.
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posted November 06, 2006 12:19 PM
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Quite frankly, I think all you bitches are smokin' da pipe.
not that i like to admit publicly but back in the day it would have been a good possibility..:-)
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posted November 06, 2006 12:34 PM
Back in the day? You need to come hang with us at the Gap brother.
Not crack mind you. We don't go anywhere near that shit, well except for Harry when he's off for a 12 hour stint at the bus stop.
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posted November 06, 2006 12:39 PM
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Quite frankly, I think all you bitches are smokin' da pipe.
not that i like to admit publicly but back in the day it would have been a good possibility..:-)
BD
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Chris is telling you right Gunner, though we've ran the gap in a million different ways, we've sort of evolved to the smoother side of things. Not using the bike up as much and concentrating on hitting our marks, and carrying some decent corner speed.
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posted November 06, 2006 03:32 PM
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I find this quite interesting as I have the stock MC, Spiegler lines and Carbon Lorraine pads and have had no issues at all with stopping power on the track. Now, granted that running 1:33's at Grattan and 1:45's at MidOhio are not Superbike times by any stretch but I can tell you that with my setup I'm hauling down from the high 160's on the backstretch at Mid-Ohio starting at the #3 brake marker with no problems. Quite frankly if my current set up has me not even worrying about whether or not I can stop in time, then I'm not changing anything just cause you all are so fast you overwhelm them. And funny how I met and spoke with a fella at Mid-Ohio that had Galfer lines and I don't know what pads, but a stock MC on his 10 and he was running 1:30-1:31's there. I would have to say if he can run those times at Mid-Ohio with the stock MC and has no worries then you are all talking out of your ass about the stock MC not cutting it. IMHO of course.
I was running like a stone cold lunatic on the track w/ the stock calipers & MC. Did they work ? yes! Did they give me even a small fraction of the confidence in my brakes that I have now? Not a chance! Try it & you shall see. I thought they (the stock brakes)were suffienct until I unlocked far superior braking. Now I wont go back for nothin!
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posted November 06, 2006 04:40 PM
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Back in the day? You need to come hang with us at the Gap brother.
Not crack mind you. We don't go anywhere near that shit, well except for Harry when he's off for a 12 hour stint at the bus stop.
BD, you do need to make it to the Gap. 
Yep, Harry loves crack for sure,......ass crack that is.
Harry was the World Champion Salad Tosser for 6 years straight until he was involved in a horrible accident. He got kicked in the face by a mule 4 or 5 times, and it left his tongue partially paralized, not to mention what it did to his mug. You have seen him haven't you.
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posted November 06, 2006 04:46 PM
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Quite frankly, I think all you bitches are smokin' da pipe.
not that i like to admit publicly but back in the day it would have been a good possibility..:-)
BD
10-4 good buddy.............
Chris is telling you right Gunner, though we've ran the gap in a million different ways, we've sort of evolved to the smoother side of things. Not using the bike up as much and concentrating on hitting our marks, and carrying some decent corner speed.
Really just depends on what you are trying to do for a given run..For just fun I compression brake a lot..But if I try and put in a fast trip thru there I use everything I have and wish for more.. If I had a anchor on board I've seen times when I would drop that as well.. Both of you guys will be surprised when you get up there on the 10.. I've said many times the 10 will lure you to insane speeds and with those insane speeds comes the need for the best brakes you can afford.. The 10 really makes going fast so easy to do the next thing you know you're going toooooo fast. You will both be surprised how easy it is to achieve 130 MPH plus up there on that 45 MPH road. AND the real fun is when you stop to think that most of the time you're at those speeds you're on the rear wheel. The 10 is the real deal.. EXCEPT for the factory brakes....
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posted November 06, 2006 04:48 PM
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Back in the day? You need to come hang with us at the Gap brother.
Not crack mind you. We don't go anywhere near that shit, well except for Harry when he's off for a 12 hour stint at the bus stop.
BD, you do need to make it to the Gap.
Yep, Harry loves crack for sure,......ass crack that is.
Harry was the World Champion Salad Tosser for 6 years straight until he was involved in a horrible accident. He got kicked in the face by a mule 4 or 5 times, and it left his tongue partially paralized, not to mention what it did to his mug. You have seen him haven't you.
mmm the chances of me getting to the gap is slim to none and slim left town doncha know. As for recognizing Mr Tosser i can't say i've had the privlidge.
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posted November 06, 2006 05:07 PM
Come on over BD! We won't let those bunch of felching fags have their way with you.
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posted November 06, 2006 05:48 PM
STFU Gummer,...or is it Hummer????
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posted November 06, 2006 08:29 PM
Blow me NinjaFag You Felcher 
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posted November 07, 2006 03:25 AM
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- by gummer, Lemme blow you Ninjaman I'm a Felcher
Don't think so queeny, save that shit for yer boyfriend Oliver.
glad I quoted ya, so even if ya edit yer post, it's still right here.
BAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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posted November 07, 2006 07:11 AM
Rick did you spend your youth as an Alter Boy or a Page in Washington?? You show signs of years of abuse on your knees with yur mouth & Ass being used as a depository. Did those mean old men have their way with you??
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posted November 07, 2006 08:23 AM
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Rick did you spend your youth as an Alter Boy or a Page in Washington?? You show signs of years of abuse on your knees with yur mouth & Ass being used as a depository. Did those mean old men have their way with you??
DOH! Gunner called you out.
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posted November 07, 2006 09:16 AM
What'd ya say gummer, spit the dick outta yer mouth so I can understand what yer sayin'.
Otis, I pay no mind to gummer, he's Oliver's yes girl.
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posted November 07, 2006 10:53 AM
Yeah I know, I'm still surpised he actually wants to be a moderator of the girls "smackhouse" forum. Who's he gonna moderate Ollie's wife and all her posts about Your best song of 2006 or Best Pudding. LMAO
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posted November 07, 2006 11:10 AM
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Yeah I know, I'm still surpised he actually wants to be a moderator of the girls "smackhouse" forum. Who's he gonna moderate Ollie's wife and all her posts about Your best song of 2006 or Best Pudding. LMAO
Yeah or "Cutest boy in the AMA" ......what a bunch of ass-thumbers......... 
Smackhouse,....I think not, it's a sham, a rip-off, a shell of what it implies. Even though Gummer is gay, and radiates estrogen, I'd like to see him moderate a forum worthy of his insite and knowledge.
Wait a minute,.......the smackhouse is PERFECT for Hummer,.....er gomer,.... I mean ah....gummer.
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