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posted November 02, 2006 12:27 PM
If you lived close Rick you could ride my set up and see how you like it.. 636 Radial master, Super bike lines like Sherm.. Stock pads and it still needs better pads.. The 636 master isn't very much band new from Kawasaki.. I was surprised.
  
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Ninjaman12R
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posted November 02, 2006 01:07 PM
What was the $coinage$ on the 636 MC ???
Ordered from Zach, or Ron Ayers?
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posted November 02, 2006 05:45 PM
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What was the $coinage$ on the 636 MC ???
Ordered from Zach, or Ron Ayers?
If you want a price call me. I'll beat their price.
I might even have a used one layin' around. Gotta check.
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Ninjaman12R
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posted November 02, 2006 07:23 PM
It'd have to be cheap.  I just bought another bike tonight.
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posted November 02, 2006 09:13 PM
Oh, OK my heart goes out to ya! hell, i'll just ship it out to ya. lol
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posted November 03, 2006 03:21 AM
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posted November 03, 2006 07:30 AM
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What was the $coinage$ on the 636 MC ???
Ordered from Zach, or Ron Ayers?
Zach....................I order everything from Zach.. I would order lunch from Zach if he sold it.. BEST deals all the way around and I'm supporting my local shop as well.. HARD to beat..
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GUNNER
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posted November 03, 2006 07:39 AM
Rick I didn't answer the question about the cost but It was less than 200 bucks I know, but exactly how much I'm not sure anymore... There is good and bad sides to switching..
The good thing about the 636 over the Brembo is the brake light switch works like stock. It's plug and play. It uses stock levers if you need one in a hurry. It matches perfect if you're anal about that kind of shit.
The bad thing is you have to use brake lines for an 05/06 636..SO you have to buy lines for sure. The radial master's lines exit the bottom.. BUT if you do this I have a set of factory rubber lines I'll give you off my girlfriends 05.....636 for free..
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posted November 03, 2006 04:29 PM
If you're gonna go for a 636 MC why not just spring for the extra few sheckles for the Brembo. It's well worth the difference.
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posted November 03, 2006 09:33 PM
Money was never the reason I didn't do a Brembo.. I had a 636 in the garage and it has perfect brakes.. So I decided to just use the OEM because of the brake light switch and OEM levers.. Break a Bembo lever on some weekend outing and try and pick one up locally.. Probably NOT going to happen.. ALTHOUGH I do think I would like to try a Brembo with the 20mm ratio.
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posted November 04, 2006 06:36 AM
Gunner,
That's a nice offer on the lines, but I really think I'm gonna go with some SS spiegler lines, and more aggressive pads. I'll leave the MC alone, for now anyway.
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posted November 04, 2006 07:04 AM
That's because you're GAY NinjaFag
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posted November 04, 2006 07:40 AM
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That's because you're GAY NinjaFag
... and I guess he won't be goin' fast enough to need any "serious stoppin' power". Hey Turd Burglar, just because ya lost a few pounds don't mean your brakin' won't need help.
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posted November 04, 2006 11:31 AM
Some people you just can't help Sherm 
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posted November 04, 2006 12:32 PM
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Money was never the reason I didn't do a Brembo.. I had a 636 in the garage and it has perfect brakes.. So I decided to just use the OEM because of the brake light switch and OEM levers.. Break a Bembo lever on some weekend outing and try and pick one up locally.. Probably NOT going to happen.. ALTHOUGH I do think I would like to try a Brembo with the 20mm ratio.
I think you read me wrong. I've got a 636 too & the brakes are great. The brembo is far superior. Ive got my 10 to the point now that it's got more brakes than motor (& that is saying a mouthful w/ 168HP at the RW).
If I go down, the last thing I'll be worrying about is my brake lever.By the way, the Brembo lever is foldable. It will survive the crash far better than stock.
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posted November 04, 2006 02:30 PM
Bill are you saying that your brakes were this good before the ZX14 calipers?? I'm NOT saying Brembo is JUNK I'm just saying that Brembo makes a few different grades of parts.. The top line brembo cost about double the other stuff they sell. The Mono Block Calipers are off the scale cost wise.. They do sell a lot of their parts based on their name. All good stuff at the least but is it really that much better than the 636 master? Maybe I need to try one and see for myself.. Possibly my head is up my ass on this one.
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posted November 04, 2006 03:48 PM
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.. Possibly my head is up my ass on this one.
sorry, got a visual.....
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posted November 04, 2006 04:05 PM
Listen, I installed the Brembo master & I got controlled & extremely progressive brake feel(better than the 636's)from my 10's stock calipers & SS lines. Upon installing the Nissin 14 Calipers(w/stock pads, will increase performance w/ some EBC HH's) it's been stepped up to the highest quality brakes I've ever used. The total cost was $275.00 for the 19x18mm MC(used. off a ZX10 Track bike)ZX14 calipers $100 incl. shipping(used.off a 14 wreck w/ 10 miles) Galfer Superbike SS lines approx. 130.00 new.
So, for me $500 for the baddest set of brakes I've ever used on the street is a bargain that couldn't be beat!
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posted November 04, 2006 04:23 PM
No doubt even the cast Brembo components are superior to the OEM replacement parts let alone going the billet route which for a street bike would be the xtreme however some folks like and enjoy such trickery.
The 636 MC is an improvement over the 04,5 OEM zx10 MC just as a cast Brembo is over the 636 but at a higher cost considering i found mine on ebay for $80 but thats most likely not the norm.As GUNNER mentioned the brake switch is plug in and all the components are colored to match so there's no disputing the cost effectiveness of the 636 MC vs stock.
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posted November 04, 2006 09:54 PM
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That's because you're GAY NinjaFag
... and I guess he won't be goin' fast enough to need any "serious stoppin' power". Hey Turd Burglar, just because ya lost a few pounds don't mean your brakin' won't need help.
So yer sayin' so SS lines and HH pads won't help at all??? It's gotta be marginally better at a minimum.
Let's say I score a 636 MC, when I get the SS lines will a line kit for a 636 work without modification on the 10R???
I've got until early next year before I make any moves on the brake mods. So I got time to listen and learn. As always, I am a frugal bastard, and want a nice setup, but it needn't be top shelf.
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posted November 05, 2006 02:29 AM
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That's because you're GAY NinjaFag
... and I guess he won't be goin' fast enough to need any "serious stoppin' power". Hey Turd Burglar, just because ya lost a few pounds don't mean your brakin' won't need help.
So yer sayin' so SS lines and HH pads won't help at all??? It's gotta be marginally better at a minimum.
Let's say I score a 636 MC, when I get the SS lines will a line kit for a 636 work without modification on the 10R???
absolutely positively.
your reading from a guy that has that exact setup along with vesrah RJL pads and Motul fluid and it is an impressive setup over stock.
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posted November 05, 2006 08:05 AM
Well, I said I wasn't going to change the MC, but I can get one pretty cheap. I definitely AIN'T going the Brembo route, if I'm not happy with it after changing lines, pads, and master cylinder,.....I'll junk the fuckin' thing.
Still debating on the MC, A LOT of guys are still running the stocker with no complaints.
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posted November 05, 2006 08:20 AM
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Well, I said I wasn't going to change the MC, but I can get one pretty cheap. I definitely AIN'T going the Brembo route, if I'm not happy with it after changing lines, pads, and master cylinder,.....I'll junk the fuckin' thing.
Still debating on the MC, A LOT of guys are still running the stocker with no complaints.
naturally. it certainly depends on the use of the bike and system. If one only uses it to commute, grab groceries and hit their local cafe' then sure the stock MC is killer however if one has a steady diet for twisties on weekends or hits an occassional trackday and can manage a moderate to fast pace the stock MC simply won't cut it.
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posted November 05, 2006 11:17 AM
BD,
I bought this thing for one purpose, to flog the shit out of it. I'm a twisty fanatic, all I do is ride curvy backroads and hoist wheelies. I do not use my bikes to commute, or any other utilitarian purpose. The are strictly for joyriding. I do intend on doing a couple track days this year, and of course my yearly trek to deal's gap and the surounding area.
What year model 636 MC will fit my '05 10R, will an '04 fit ok?
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posted November 05, 2006 12:11 PM
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BD,
I bought this thing for one purpose, to flog the shit out of it. I'm a twisty fanatic, all I do is ride curvy backroads and hoist wheelies. I do not use my bikes to commute, or any other utilitarian purpose. The are strictly for joyriding. I do intend on doing a couple track days this year, and of course my yearly trek to deal's gap and the surounding area.
What year model 636 MC will fit my '05 10R, will an '04 fit ok?
understood and appreciate your enthusiasm.
The 04 zx6r(636) is not a radial so i doubt you'll want that one but the 05 zx6r(636) is a radial so its been the choice of a few guys looking to improve their setup. I have quite a few pics of my setup if you'd like to see them lemme know y2k_929rr@yahoo.com
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