steve massey
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posted November 26, 2004 10:37 PM
brembo master info
someone show me where i saw a post about changing to a brembo..
  
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12RPilot
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posted November 27, 2004 02:09 AM
 Edited By: 12RPilot on 27 Nov 2004 02:11
Maybe this one?
http://www.bikeland.org/board/viewthread.php?FID=19&TID=15779&set_time=
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posted November 27, 2004 09:44 PM
Steve, I don't know of anyone that has switched to Brembo components on thier 10R. After working on numerous race bikes with Brembo's front brake radial master cylinder, I know that it is the very next addition I plan on making to my 10R. The only other choice I might make is to use one from the '05 636/6RR, depending on the cost difference and if they are similar in design (piston size, lever travel, etc.).
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posted November 27, 2004 11:03 PM
The R1 piece is a Brembo similar enough to the cast aftermarket unit as to be indistinguishable by most mortals. Sorry but I've no details on the piston or pivot dimensions. By the way redwings, what exactly is the stock 10R unit doing that has you so frustrated? I ride on Palomar's S6, a downhill run with 66 turns in 7 miles and a 2,500' elevation drop. If there was a problem with my stock brakes I'd know it. They are a bit numb and lacking in feedback at the extreme, but rubber lines and stock steel rotors are like that. That said, the consistency and consequent predictability of their performance tends to trump that shortcoming. If you'd like I can UPS red some Chatta out to you. That should make it all better.
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ZX10 Guy
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posted November 27, 2004 11:48 PM
Hey contact this guy, Krazy1, on the zx-10r.net forum. He's got a Brembo radial master on his bike.
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redelk
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posted November 28, 2004 09:39 AM
bovine - my riding skills hardly warrant such a modification, but even my 12R had better feedback and less lever travel. Braided lines, removal of the heat plates behind the pads and Castorol SRF all made an improvement, but its still lacking the firmness I'm used to. I'd rather have "that old feel" then "adjust my riding" to compensate.
It's not really a poser thing, even though I have been referred to as the "Mayor of Poserville" on more than one ocassion. I don't care if it has Brembo or Yamaha or anything stamped on it. I am also a far cry for being the fastest guy on the block (or neighborhood... or city...), but I know I'd be more confident in my riding if I had "that old feeling" back. It's just the way I am.
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TurboBlew
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posted November 28, 2004 04:46 PM
Whats the big deal?? YOu can buy those from AP Racing for $350.
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posted November 28, 2004 06:07 PM
Dammit. I thought for sure he'd bite on the "chatta" troll.
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redelk
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posted November 29, 2004 06:08 AM
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Whats the big deal?? YOu can buy those from AP Racing for $350.
Graves Motorsports - $240
http://www.gravesport.com/Products/Braking.shtml
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Dammit. I thought for sure he'd bite on the "chatta" troll.
Silly, your assuming that I have a clue what "chatta" is. Trolling the "ignorant" requires simple minded bait. 
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posted November 29, 2004 08:04 AM
It's a joke, as in,
Joker: Would you like some chatta?
Jokee: I haven't a clue what chatta is.
Joker: Chatta fuck up!
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jonwright
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posted November 29, 2004 12:17 PM
Harumph. Shoulda kept that one to yourself, Mad Cow.
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posted November 29, 2004 03:15 PM
Sharing is caring. By the way, you seem to be running low on chatta 
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steve massey
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posted November 29, 2004 09:38 PM
thanks for the input, installing this week.....
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jonwright
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posted November 30, 2004 02:06 PM
I got yer chatta right here....
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TurboBlew
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posted November 30, 2004 06:57 PM
Yes, but is the Graves one adjustable??????
http://www.apracing.com/motorcycle/cylinder/data.asp?code=CP4125
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Graves Motorsports - $240
http://www.gravesport.com/Products/Braking.shtml
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posted November 30, 2004 10:02 PM
I've never used one, but the general concensus is the AP mc sucks. I've used AP rotors and calipers and they suck compared to Brembo, so I would tend to believe the AP mc sucks as well. If it says "made in England," you are most likely better off without it. Just my personal experience.
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TurboBlew
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posted November 30, 2004 10:43 PM
Suck how?? Ive yet to see a Brembo on par with the AP adjustable master.
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posted December 01, 2004 08:18 AM
Never used one so I can't tell you. When I was shopping for a mc everyone I asked, including the US AP distributor at the time, told me it was a piece of shit. A quick perusal of the paddock at any significant roadracing event would tend to back that up. 99.9% of the clipons have a Brembo bolted to them. Another thing, when I shitcanned my top line, billet AP calipers for a set of cast oem style Brembos, it was like a light came on. The performance was so much better in so many ways I suddenly understood why damn near everyone at the top level uses Brembo, and almost nobody uses AP.
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jonwright
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posted December 01, 2004 09:50 AM
Edited By: jonwright on 1 Dec 2004 09:51
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Suck how?? Ive yet to see a Brembo on par with the AP adjustable master.
Looks to me last time they were on anybody's shiznit race machine was 2001. Eons ago - and only on one team - Ducati - which, in case you didn't notice, uses Brembo on both production machines and their race bikes (MotoGP included).
So I'm not sure what you are basing that comment on but I'd like to hear more.
Oh, and the Brembos ARE adjustable.
I guess it's just a nice way to say: BULLSHIT, fuck face!
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