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posted July 25, 2004 07:11 AM
I'm not upset, he had alot more money in his bike than I had in my car. Wait 'til my car is properly modded... 
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posted July 25, 2004 08:14 AM
I think ricers are far worse than bikers, some kid puts a bike header on his moms 4 door civic then pulls up next to a guy in a 03 Cobra and expects to win! What the fuck is that?! And that sound, it's like a fat girl farting in a microphone. A supra or Skyline I can deal with, but Honda's and most any other Jap car you couldn't give me without it being traded on a Corvette, Camaro, Grand National or Stang.
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posted July 25, 2004 12:17 PM
Hey Matt, the clinic called, they want their bitch back!!!
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posted July 25, 2004 12:44 PM
OK, I am gonna go ahead and put my 2 cents in. I think it is pretty funny that it is such a big deal for a heavily moddified car to beat a stock bike. Also, any which way you slice it, you are comparing apples and oranges.
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posted July 25, 2004 01:19 PM
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OK, I am gonna go ahead and put my 2 cents in. I think it is pretty funny that it is such a big deal for a heavily moddified car to beat a stock bike. Also, any which way you slice it, you are comparing apples and oranges.
It's a big deal simply because sportbikes are a dime a dozen. It's very easy to obtain a 9sec @ 140+mph, 180+mph capable rocket from the local Kawi/Honda/Zuki/Yami dealerships right off the show room floor. It's not that simple to obtain a street car that can achieve the same feat. Therefore, finding a STREET car with enough power to hang with, and even beat a sportbike is rare, and IS a big deal. How much money it takes is beside the point. There are no rules in street racing, it's not about making things fair... it's about running the guy in the other lane, no matter what he's got... bike OR car.
It's "funny" because "we" as sportbike riders are used to seeing such performance all of the time. Any local hang out in any one town at any one night is bound to have umpteen Hayabusas sitting in the parking lot, countless R1s and GSX-R1000s... etc... All of which are extremely fast, completely STOCK. The amount of cars on the road that have enough power to outrun one of these rockets on the highway or at the track... is extremely RARE.
Apples and Oranges in that it's two completely different experiences driving a car vs riding a bike. Apples and apples in that they both share the same roads, therefore both can be raced against each other. Alls fair in the "run what you brung" game.
...and for what it's worth, if you know someone, or know OF someone in your area that has one of these high power cars... beg and plead for a ride in one of them. I took a ride in a local Supra a few months back (780rwhp at the time). It's incredible... and my bike is no slouch
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posted July 25, 2004 04:39 PM
 Edited By: sabersaw30 on 25 Jul 2004 17:41
Turbo cars are bad.
I had a turbo buick I used to where bikes out with.And did not have a whole lot of money in the car.All you have to do is crank up the turbo and give it plenty of fuel.Turbo cars are awesome from a roll.My buick I had would kill my 10 from a roll.But the 10 would eat it up from a standstill.It is all about spooling up the turbo.Boost is awesome. Turbo means torque. I would like to put a turbo on the ten.Now that would be bad.
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posted July 26, 2004 03:17 AM
"It's a big deal simply because sportbikes are a dime a dozen."
I thought mustangs, harley's, and ricers were.
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posted July 26, 2004 08:28 AM
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"It's a big deal simply because sportbikes are a dime a dozen."
I thought mustangs, harley's, and ricers were.
Not the kind that can put a hurtin on a 10R 
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posted July 26, 2004 10:03 AM
Edited By: salsa1 on 26 Jul 2004 11:21
" Apples and apples in that they both share the same roads, therefore both can be raced against each other. Alls fair in the "run what you brung" game".
I would love to have a series of endurance tests with this Supra vs a slightly moddified ZX-10R just to prove a point and laugh; how much abuse can this heavily moddified Supra take? how many 1/4 mile runs? how many top speed runs? How about around a circuit track? Supra would most assuredly self destruct disabling itself in an expensive puff of smoke and ZX-10R will be ready for so much more. No thank you I don't need any $$$$ turbo Supra ;you go right ahead!
I have lots of fun with my ZX-10 anytime and don't need to worry near as much about a big repair bill or blowing anything ; ZX-10R makes so much more sense and is far more reliable.....
Nothing personal ;Supra thing just don't make sense.
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posted July 26, 2004 10:12 AM
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posted July 26, 2004 10:19 AM
Yet another one who just doesn't "get it". 
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I would love to have a series of endurance tests with this Supra vs a slightly moddified ZX-10R just to prove a point and laugh
Point and laugh at what/whom and for what reason ? To establish the dominance over some cage that beat the tar out of some squid with the same kinda bike that you have ? I'm just not certain why you would get so worked up. Obviously this guy has the funds to purchase, and "properly modify" any bike he so desires. What's there to laugh at about that... hell, the guy may very well even HAVE A ZX-10R, lol.
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how much abuse can this heavily moddified Supra take? how many 1/4 mile runs? how many top speed runs? How about around a circuit track?
Who knows, they're pretty stout with factory parts at that power level. FACT... is that on that night, with that rider, in that highway race, the 10R got worked.
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Supra would most assuredly self destruct disabling itself in an expensive puff of smoke and ZX-10R will be ready for so much more.
Not so sure about the Supra self destructing, and that kinda of peak power they make on that much boost would be completely useless on a "circuit". So the power would be dialed back with less boost... but no doubt at all about the 10R begging for more.
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I have lots of fun with my ZX-10 anytime and don't need to worry near as much about a big repair bill or blowing anythingr ; ZX-10R makes so much more sense and is far more reliable.....
Oh I agree with you 100%. Perhaps the Supra owner isn't too worried about brekaing parts. He obviously has money. Also doesn't need all of that power all of the time to take care of most of his opponents in a little highway race.
It's as if this squid getting beat is causing you guys to assure your dominance over most of the fast cars out there. Hence all the talk about how much more cost effective it is speed/$$$ wise to ride a motorcycle. No one is saying that the sportbike isn't the "king" of the road. They are, easily... and the vast majority of them do so completely stock. The FACT remains that there are CAGES out there faster than these STOCK bikes. You saying that it takes alot more money, is just an excuse to make you feel better about being slower. I know there are cars out there faster than my bike. I know they spent a helluva lot more money doing so. Doesn't bother me ONE little bit. It also doesn't bother me when someone on a 12R gets his ass handed to him. Sometimes someone is just faster than you.
This race... belonged to the cage. There is NOTHING that can be done about it.
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posted July 26, 2004 10:29 AM
Still would laugh a bunch watching expensive turbo supras self destruct or lose to ZX-10R'S around a track or endurance races ;and there is nothing you can do about that....
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posted July 26, 2004 10:47 AM
Hey... If it makes YOU feel better about that bike LOSING, more power to ya
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posted July 26, 2004 12:14 PM
As long as it's someone elses money being lost and ill spent don't care one way or the another myself....or it would not be funny knowing the limitations of an overpriced unreliable supra.hehe. fools are also dime a dozen so I don't get excited too see one or two more.....
Have a Dodge Stealth twin turbo myself and am very glad and satisfied I spent my money on the ZX-10R instead of trying to get my twin turbo to beat one. But again go ahead and build one;you will build one or are you just talking for the sake of arguing? after all money is not an issue right ?hehe. oh brother.
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posted July 26, 2004 08:46 PM
Sterbator.... dont tell these guys a stock Toyota Solara shortblock is good to well over 1000 hp and can be bought at ANY Toyota dealer!
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posted July 26, 2004 09:56 PM
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As long as it's someone elses money being lost and ill spent don't care one way or the another myself
I'm still not sure what it is with you people and money. Most vehicles aren't an investment, so you lose money either way.
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or it would not be funny knowing the limitations of an overpriced unreliable supra.hehe.
Ignorance is bliss. Limitations... heh. Guy I know who used to live here in town made close to 900rwhp on a 168,000 mile stock bottom end Supra... and it was still running, with good compression when it was pulled out. Yes, it was beat on.
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fools are also dime a dozen so I don't get excited too see one or two more...
Fools, sportbikes, sportbike riders in general being worse than ricers... all a dime a dozen... and I believe I already said this
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Have a Dodge Stealth twin turbo myself and am very glad and satisfied I spent my money on the ZX-10R instead of trying to get my twin turbo to beat one.
Heh, that would have been a complete waste of money. Steatlhs are overweight, unreliable pigs with little to no potential of being anything but heavy slow turds. The Supra, well you could actually make that car put a hurtin on the 10R... as evidenced in the video. The money issue is just you trying to make yourself feel better about knowing you'd have gotten beat too
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But again go ahead and build one;you will build one or are you just talking for the sake of arguing? after all money is not an issue right ?hehe. oh brother.
Have fun.;
Ahh, I'd love to. I bought and sold a 98 Supra turbo couple years ago. Made enough to make a down payment on my house, lol. I haven't the funds, nor the burning desire to build a car like that. That's what my bike is for. However, I'd love to have another one. I'm not stupid enough to laugh at someone who made a different choice, and spent more money doing it.
Like I said before, if it was all about money, you'd have bought a '01 GSX-R1000 for $6k added $3k in mods and put a hurtin on every 10R on this board, and still have $1000 left over. Must be why all the guys on Gixxer.com are laughing at you now, lol.
Remember, the money thing is just you trying to make yourself feel better
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posted July 26, 2004 09:58 PM
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Sterbator.... dont tell these guys a stock Toyota Solara shortblock is good to well over 1000 hp and can be bought at ANY Toyota dealer!
Supra shortblock, but yeah. They've made 1000rwhp on a STOCK Toyota bottom end. As I mentioned before, I know someone who made about 900rwhp on a stock bottom end Supra with 168,000 miles on it.
900rw is about 150more than the Supra whuppin up on the 10R in the video
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posted July 27, 2004 04:22 AM
Edited By: salsa1 on 27 Jul 2004 10:27
168,000 with 900 rwhp; out of a supra 6 cylinder that gets beat up regularly like a sport bike does? Just oil changes and nothing $$$$broke$$$$ along the way?
That degree of reliability would NOT be the exception right? Is that what you are claiming? hahahahahahaha ......(suuuuuure).
Are you 15 years old?? Does you dad know you are teasing grown ups and spending too much time on the internet??
don't worry kid; if ya finish school ya might have your own hot rod ya can brag about....have some class when ya do, don't get a cheepy slow buttstang.any bum gets them. hehe.My Stealth goes 175 mph with just little extra boost and intake mods....all wheel drive ,all wheel steering for all year use in winter terrain ,26 mpg to boot.
Can't really chat with ya no more got grown up stuff to do; one day you will possibly grow up and understand.
Stay in school don't be a fool.....
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posted July 28, 2004 03:45 PM
Jealousy. Plain and simple.
No one is saying a car is better than a sportbike. Not once was it said, or implied. The sportbike in general is far better and faster than ALMOST anything you may come across on the road. That being said, that does NOT change the fact that the squid on the 10R in the video, got his ass handed to him with authority. For some reason, this burns at the pride section of your tiny little brain.
FACT is that car had the mileage, and made the power. The parts it broke, clutches. 900hp tends to do that. Reliability... yet another poor argument to assert how the sportbike is better. Thing is, and you're too stupid to realize... is that I agree with you completely. I'm just not retarded enough to make the silly arguments you have made.
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Are you 15 years old?? Does you dad know you are teasing grown ups and spending too much time on the internet??
Can you not actually back up your feeble little attempt to make you fragile ego feel better with atleast some sort of intelligent argument that you resort to this ?
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My Stealth goes 175 mph with just little extra boost and intake mods....all wheel drive ,all wheel steering for all year use in winter terrain ,26 mpg to boot.
First it was the video of Supra whuppin the 10R's ass that got your panties in a wad... now it's the mere suggestion that your car is but a mere shitstain compared to something else. After all that spewing off at the keyboard, you're trying to impress me with your POS Mitsubishi, lol. I can't believe you spent that kinda money on something so inferior to a motorcycle.
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posted July 29, 2004 04:19 AM
Edited By: salsa1 on 29 Jul 2004 07:30
Jealous of a buttstang?? or a childs fantasy of grandeur?? hehe. Gee whiz please don't get all upset and remind me of the hurting done to my ZX-10R anymore kid. hahahaha have a little mercy......
you've been fun kid. here ya go..
http://www.themotorhead.com/downloads/zx10r/ZX10R_1.wmv
thanks for the laughs; don't take yourself so seriously you will get gray hairs by the time your 18. Plus no one likes to waste time with a a hothead who takes on everyone on a forum who disagees with him like you have. Really.. Just helpfull advice ya really need kid; don't get all offended now.... read carefully the rest of my previous posts if ya want to learn something. But stay as a non-funtional kid in self denial if you like; I don't have to live with you.
Lots of street cars are faster than a ZX-10R in the world; no one really cares as much as you seem to think....truth kid. Fact remains very few ZX-10R owners are dissapointed with their ZX-10'S regardless of what arguments you create. I suppose you don't have one .Is that a major problem for ya?? Or you don't like your mustang and it's all you can afford?? What can your mustang do??It's no big deal really kid.
Concentrate on what YOU can do (not someone else) and what YOU have ; now thats worthy of respect.....
Have fun;stay alive.
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posted July 29, 2004 06:37 AM
well said!
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