dnwhoop02
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posted May 30, 2004 06:58 PM
friction plates and springs?
ok, so I installed my 16T C/S sprocket yesterday and I must say, I love it. This is how the bike should come from the factory. But enough about that...
I expected to be able to power it up more easily with the new sprocket, but I can't because the clutch seems to be slipping too much. In first at 5K I can now whack the throttle and bring it up (without chopping first), but the thing just won't stay up, even at WOT. Also, when just getting on it hard in first (not trying to wheelie), I get the sensation of wheelspin (lagging feeling). After shifting to second though, everything is right with the world again and it pulls hard like it should.
So my question is... has anyone replaced the friction plates and springs on theirs, or have any input as to the effectiveness of this solution? Also, does anyone know what I would replace them with? I've never bought aftermarket plates or springs, so this is kinda new to me.
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Michael Lee
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posted May 30, 2004 07:05 PM
Just out of curiosity, how many miles on the ole clock?
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dnwhoop02
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posted May 30, 2004 07:13 PM
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TurboBlew
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posted May 30, 2004 09:21 PM
Dont use anything BUT OEM Kawasaki clutch parts. (steels and fibers)
You will be sorry if you do. Vesrah and Barnett are fucking trash!
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bovinespongiformencephalo
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posted May 31, 2004 06:33 AM
quote:
Dont use anything BUT OEM Kawasaki clutch parts. (steels and fibers)
You will be sorry if you do. Vesrah and Barnett are fucking trash!
It merited repeating.
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kz2zx
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posted May 31, 2004 08:10 AM
How about EBC?
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matt sterbator
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posted May 31, 2004 10:41 AM
OEM Kawasaki... only.
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10rmotor
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posted June 01, 2004 08:13 PM
Don't know about EBC or Vesrah, but the Barnett springs were junk after one weekend in my zx10. Barnett springs, OTOH, were good. I ended up using 1000R plates and discs in the 10 clutch basket, and was able to get one extra disc and plate in the pack. No more slipping clutch. Are the 12R discs (and springs) the same as the 10R? I'd check the spring wire diameter of the 12R springs. Does Barnett make springs for the 10R?
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trikchop
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posted June 01, 2004 08:23 PM
funny topic, at 5000 miles my clutch is fukked! the warranty girl is gonna call kawasaki toomorrow but you know there gonna call it a wear item!
the steels look ok so im just gonna dip em in acid, replace the others and ill be rockin and rolin again!
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supraman95mb
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posted June 02, 2004 06:27 AM
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Don't know about EBC or Vesrah, but the Barnett springs were junk after one weekend in my zx10. Barnett springs, OTOH, were good. I ended up using 1000R plates and discs in the 10 clutch basket, and was able to get one extra disc and plate in the pack. No more slipping clutch. Are the 12R discs (and springs) the same as the 10R? I'd check the spring wire diameter of the 12R springs. Does Barnett make springs for the 10R?
You mean you ordered CBR 1000RR fibers and put them with the stock steels and it works???
How many fibers and steels??
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dnwhoop02
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posted June 02, 2004 08:13 AM
yes, these are my questions as well...
10rmotor, in the first sentece of your post, you say that Barnett springs were junk after one weekend, but Barnett springs, on the other hand, were good... which is it? are they good or bad?
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VPREATR
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posted June 02, 2004 01:01 PM
For reference, here is the ZX10R OEM clutch (fibers/steel) part numbers and quanities:
Part No. 13088-0003 Friction Plate, 2 required.
Part No. 13088-0013 Friction Plate, 8 required.
Part No. 13089-0003 Steel
Part No. 13089-1115 Steel 2.6, 8 required.
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10rmotor
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posted June 03, 2004 05:54 PM
my bad
Sorry guys, my bad. Barnett discs were (and are) junk. The Barnett springs are good.
As for the other confusions, I'm not talking honda cbr. I'm talking forerunner to the original ninja zx10, the 1000R, of (yikes) almost 20 years ago.
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TurboBlew
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posted June 03, 2004 06:38 PM
A word of caution on ANY bike.
If the seller or dealer brags about installing EBC, Barnett, or Vesrah clutches.... that would be your cue to start walking.
For some reason Kawi makes the clutches perfect for their bikes. All others shed material too fast and end up clogging oil pickups and passages with the debris.
At the very least any motor without OEM clutches should have the oil pan removed and the pickup screen cleaned as well as the clutch disassembled and cleaned with solvent.
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