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posted October 06, 2004 07:53 AM
http://www.andrews-products.com/camshaft/
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drowland
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posted October 06, 2004 11:25 AM
NO u do not have to drop the motor. However the manual calls for over 5 hours to do. And if he can do it in 5 hours he has done this before on the same bike and if he hasn't it will take him at least 7 or 8 hours to do it right. Add that money up! Do it right and have the right person to do it or don't do it at all. Its a pain in the ass is what my guy said.
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posted October 06, 2004 04:42 PM
Man I am seriously impressed with you horsepower mongers.  To crack your baby open for a .5 or so increase in compression is a serious player. I would only add that if you are going to go through the effort, maybe spend a hair more and get a good valve job done by a reputable tuner, and check the cam-timing and/or degree them in (maybe Doug can offer some specs/input depending on where you're looking to put the power).
I only say that because after testing one with the gasket and other mods, it just wasn't that impressive of an increase over some with engines never cracked open.
You can stay on the outside and do some serious tuning as well. Exhaust, PC/KMC ECU, BMC, put her (or you) on a little bit of a diet, use some Ultimate 4 or MR9 when necessary, etc... and you're potentially looking at 10 - 15 hp or more.
Anyway, good on you guys taking these mods seriously. Can't get enough hp!
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posted October 06, 2004 05:13 PM
K bryant done all of those BMC filter, thin head gasket, Ti force full system, Power commander customed mapped for and without the U4, Hyperpro Active damper, etc... Next nitrous ? Turbo?? Hmmmmmmmm
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dougmeyer
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posted October 06, 2004 09:54 PM
Sprocket,
Why did you cite Andrews? John does not make any cams for late model Japanese engines. V twins only.
Doug
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posted October 07, 2004 08:39 AM
I was just looking up places that do aftermerket cams. Didn't know he doesn't do late model japanese bikes. Sorry everybody.
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10rmotor
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posted October 07, 2004 05:12 PM
Doug
Thanks for confirming what I found with the andrews link above. I thought I was having a case of the stupids. So no cams available yet, correct? Just degree for now.
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o
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posted October 07, 2004 06:10 PM
Here's my thing I'm at about 14,000 miles and the going to need the valves checked soon. I figured while they were in there to do a valve job and thinner gasket plus the pcIII,bmc and maybe a full akra(I have a slip now) and custom map. So that all being said anyone have any imfo or know or a good place to do this type of work. I am willing to drive some ways from Detroit to get this done. Thanks for the help.
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k bryant
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posted October 07, 2004 09:37 PM
Well.... If you're willing to drive to Bend, OR, I know a couple of guys who could do a fair job for you....
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posted October 11, 2004 08:44 AM
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Here's my thing I'm at about 14,000 miles and the going to need the valves checked soon. I figured while they were in there to do a valve job and thinner gasket plus the pcIII,bmc and maybe a full akra(I have a slip now) and custom map. So that all being said anyone have any imfo or know or a good place to do this type of work. I am willing to drive some ways from Detroit to get this done. Thanks for the help.
Coby Adams of "Adams Performance"..... 2 thumbs up..
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posted November 03, 2004 06:33 PM
Having a hard time locating a good place to do the job.
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o
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posted November 17, 2004 01:00 PM
Ok now that I have found someone that will do the work where can I get some cams at?
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redelk
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posted November 17, 2004 03:14 PM
Dano's Performance (http://www.danosperformance.com) in Wittier, CA offers the following:
STAGE 1
Yoshimura TRS Duplex exhaust system
Dynojet Power Commander
K & N air filter
claimed 168 RWHP
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Head gasket (thinner than stock)
Cylinder head porting (customer supplied head)
Cams (custom grind)
Flow matched fuel injectors
claimed 185 RWHP
If I were guessin', this would be easily more than $4K worth of mods, if not a lot closer to $5K. If everything is PERFECT and your bike was already putting out someting in the mid to upper 150s... you MIGHT see 185. Realistically, going by some of their estimated gain ranges and taking the lower of the two, you might break into the low 170s. Not that anything over 170 would be very impressive, but 185 might be a little bit of a stretch. Especially if your bike was putting out under 150 to begin with.
The only questions I would have is:
1. I thought the K&N 10R filters just came out in last week or so. How did they get them so fast? Have they really been out longer than I imagined?
2. When they say the cam is "custom grind", what is it's application? Drag racing? Road racing? General purpose street riding? How were they degreed and for what reason?
I'm too lazy to call and ask. Mostly due to the fact I don't have $5K sitting around.
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big daddy
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posted November 17, 2004 03:40 PM
if i send you 5k would you make the call as i'm too lazy.
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posted November 18, 2004 04:46 PM
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if i send you 5k would you make the call as i'm too lazy. BD
Send the $5K and I'll think about it.
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posted November 19, 2004 11:52 AM
Who did you find, o? I live an hour south of you so I'm curious.
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drowland
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posted November 20, 2004 03:35 PM
Has anyone changed to the smaller gaskets? If so what was the results? I also noticed that the Muzzy and the Kaw are different sizes?
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I have put on the muzzys thin head gasket. What do you mean the head gaskets are different sizes? I thought the one muzzys has is the factory (kaw) thin head gasket.
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posted November 20, 2004 07:58 PM
12R, I have a friend that I use to work with that was the mechanic at work. I know of work that he has done on bikes and he does a great job. He took my bike for a spin before. So he ask my if I was going to tear into the motor this winter. I told him a smaller head gasket. Then he told me that we're going to the whole 9 yards. So now I'm loking for parts and results.
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posted November 20, 2004 08:03 PM
drowland, the two websites state that: kaw is .05mm smaller and muzzys is .3mm smaller.
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drowland
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posted November 20, 2004 08:45 PM
O yeah I read that after I saw your post. I think that its the same one and that might just be a typo because my muzzys head gasket I think came in a Kawasaki box. I will check . It is stronger and I think that the sport rider magazine had the bike with the thin head gasket since it was stronger than the other magazines test bikes. However the bike is just real particular on the quality of gas you run.
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posted February 19, 2005 12:42 AM
can i get cams any where else besides Dano's?
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drowland
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posted March 01, 2005 07:06 AM
I keep what you have and just get them degreed to muzzys supersport specs.
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