whitesands26
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posted May 17, 2004 02:47 PM
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I seem to remember that some of the posts of dyno runs of bikes that are owned by individuals also got results in the 160 HP range. I doubt that Kawasaki prepared "ringers" for them as well. I would bet that most of the variation you see in dyno numbers is a result of difference in dynos, atmospheric conditions, operator, etc. I am sure that there is production line variations in bikes also. quote:
Well said...You can't count these factors out...
  
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Yama1yzf
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posted May 18, 2004 06:06 AM
Lighten up fella's...is anyone on this board unhappy about the power their bike makes? Didn't see a single response that mentioned the bike is not powerful enough, much to the contrary. Kawasaki made the lightest and most powerful bike this year. Pretty much that simple. After the 12 fiasco they deserve some good press. Let 'em have their day in the sun!
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Zammy
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posted May 18, 2004 07:21 PM
Soooo,Scott .What will ya take for your slowass p.o.s.10R anyways ? Keeping in mind ,of coarse, its slowness.
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DB
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posted May 18, 2004 08:40 PM
Yea, zammy, these 10r's are so slow you should be able to get a good deal. But hey, why would you want such a slow light weight bike anyways?
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10inMS
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posted May 19, 2004 12:12 PM
165 horses is what i know it doesnt matter though we have the fastest liter bike out right now
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1143nos
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posted May 19, 2004 01:06 PM
the local shop here in VA has dynoed 4 of them to the tune of 152 to 156bhp. and with the guy running 10's, i ran 9.40's on mine the first weekend i rode it. with my only mods being an exhaust strapped and a 15 front sprocket.
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engineermike
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posted May 19, 2004 06:19 PM
Your other thread says it was 60" (~5.5" over stock) also.
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DB
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posted May 19, 2004 08:36 PM
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1143nos
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posted May 20, 2004 06:37 AM
it was 60" but I dropped 2 in the front so I was just giving everybody the benifit of the doubt. havent measured it since then. I plan in taking another link out on it. just to be sure. there are alot of 60" races here in VA/MD area. it is at the dyno shop right now getting some custom maps. I left a few gallons of MR9 there for the tuner. I will post some numbers tomorrow, and some times saturday when i get back to the track. times should come down with the custom map and the electric shifter that was installed.
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ianred1
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posted September 29, 2005 06:32 AM
if you go on dont be scared racing .com youll see stock wheel base zx10rs running 9.30s all day , video shows how to leave also!!!!!!!!!
mine is streched lowered geared strapped and runs 9.15's will go 890's with 140 pounds rider and a 1.48 60 foot , its running 9.15s with a 1.55 with a 190 pound rider!!!!!!!!!!
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Hells Dark Lord
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posted September 29, 2005 08:17 AM
In the interest of curiosity...what is everyones 10 pulling for HP on a dyno???
mine didnt do 160, it did 157 on pump gas stock.....anyone else??
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k bryant
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posted September 29, 2005 10:26 AM
Mine took MR9 and Slip-On to do 161 hp. Otherwise, it's 153 or so.
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posted September 29, 2005 11:13 AM
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Hells Dark Lord
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posted September 30, 2005 12:18 PM
so mine is right in the same area as yours then, with in a few HP.....
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ikezixxer
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posted September 30, 2005 03:35 PM
Well I have a totally stock zx10r and am running 188 rwhp on a dynojet certified tuners dyno...he said it was alot but i say... aye...shitty numbaZZZZZZ hehe
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Hells Dark Lord
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posted September 30, 2005 04:42 PM
I would have to question those numers on a stock ZX10.....sounds to me like uncorrected numbers.....
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k bryant
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posted September 30, 2005 05:20 PM
I think he's kidding there racer Jim... 
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posted September 30, 2005 05:31 PM
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interesting info about the superflow erich. i guess when SR uses their superflow in inertial mode, they have it output superflow's estimation of "dynojet" numbers. they prolly have the calculations not quite right and thus end up with slightly higher numbers. i know the superflow can also output inertial rwhp numbers which are by nature lower, but i guess SR just doesnt use this mode. would be nice if everyone used true steady state mode for publishing dyno figures since there are jsut too many variables when doing inertial dyno pulls.
I agree with you completely but unfortunately, like an addict addicted to a stronger drug, the public has become addicted to Dynojet's inflated hp numbers.
Even here on this board I remember about 2 years ago enormous resistance to someone having posted the facts on that matter.
People like the high, deliberately-mathematically-inflated DJ numbers, and with most people you can't win with explanations of true numbers from other makers of dynos. I can't even imagine a magazine finding it a good plan to present real numbers as their norm and educate their readers that their numbers are right and "everyone else" is wrong.
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Hells Dark Lord
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posted October 01, 2005 04:39 AM
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I think he's kidding there racer Jim...
I see the he he he now...I didnt before.....but those be the numbazzzzz i wasnt from my 10....when are you going to make a header pipe that goes with slip on i bought from ya Kerry???? 
I still get thumbs up and compliments on how that slip on looks and espicially how it sounds........
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k bryant
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posted October 01, 2005 10:50 AM
Cool Jim. I've done several prototype headers. I've got one that makes almost 4 hp more than the stock headpipe, but it's going to be too costly to put into production. It's a stepped headpipe design (3 steps) with machined "ported" stainless steel exhaust spigots that get bolted directly to the head. The pipes then slip into them. Then it has two primary merge collectors, and a single secondary merge collector going into the mid-pipe. We had to make a fuel map for it, because it does change the stock fuel curve quiet a bit. Honestly, I think it will probably work better on a Superstock spec motor. The stock header works really good with a stock motor.
So the bottom line is that if I make it out of stainless, it's gonna be priced in $1000 range (without muffler) and obviously more in Ti or Inconel. Plus you have to buy a PC or KMC/ECU for the map. I think the market will be pretty small for it, when a Slip-On can make 4-6 hp for a fraction of the dough. Will they/you pay another grand plus for another 4 hp? If I don't go into production with it, maybe I'll make ya a deal on the prototype(s)!
Speaking of maps - I did one the other day on a '03 R6 and gained almost 7 hp over the set-up he came in with (canned map). He had a full Akro on it and man was that map was messed up (wrong map, not DJ fault). We sent him out making 104 hp (came in at 97.3). Oh and the best part of it, my going rate for dynoing and "remapping" a canned map is $75 ! We do it simply for the challenge and to get our name out there inbetween other projects. I've been showing my two sons how to work the dyno and do fuel mapping. So it's kinda like charging for their tutition!!!
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Hells Dark Lord
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posted October 01, 2005 12:09 PM
put me 1st in line for the prototype then Kerry, I already planned on an PC and the thin head gasket.....and I know you will make a quality product......
As far as paying a grand for another 4 HP......prolly not, but to pay a grand to get the most out of all the other mods that are done/planned and to make the biek run as well as possible, well yes i woudl spend it, I know, I have seen me do it....
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mitsumatt20
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posted October 07, 2005 02:15 PM
my bike put 154 to the wheel down. I thought that was good.
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CrotchRocket
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posted October 07, 2005 07:31 PM
Dyno tunning for max HorsePower and doing every trick there is for more HorsePower are for the Pros!!!
I never had my 2002 12 dyno'd, it has an Akrapovic pipe and it has 170-175 horse power @ the rear wheel in 60 degree weather...How do I know, its because I compared my 1/4 MPH to one of the Pros ZX12...His MPH in the 1/4 was 154-155 and dyno'd at 185 rear wheel horse power with every trick mod known...My MPH is 151-152 with just the Akrapovic pipe...
Soo for all you guys that need every mod to have the HorsePower of the Pros, how much $$$ will you want to spend???...By the way you can spend all that $$$ and will never get exactly that big HP #...Why, because the dyno tunner will not put the time into your bike that the Pros do or get...
All im trying to say is that we dont need to spend all that $$$ on trick mods and dyno tunning if your not a Pro Racer!!!...Just do the mods that are best bang for your buck and cheap to install...
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Hells Dark Lord
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posted October 08, 2005 02:50 PM
I will put as much money into my bike as need to get it to run how I think it should......and how I want it to.....after all the only person tha tbike has to please, is me.
I would buy a prototype header from Kerry adn the tema at AreaP, 1) because its one of theirs 2) because I would have one of a few out there 3) I know it will be a quality product
4) It will allow me to maximize the performace gains made through other mods.
the suspension is where I plan on spending the most time/money in. I want it to handle as good as is possible with my limited budget.
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